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Thanks for answering. :) Will see what some application of skull sweat will bring out. [[User:Ngebendi|Ngebendi]] 21:26, September 28, 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for answering. :) Will see what some application of skull sweat will bring out. [[User:Ngebendi|Ngebendi]] 21:26, September 28, 2010 (UTC)
== Shield and Mental Shield. ==
Pam, greetings.
I was thinking that the articles "Shield" and "Mental Shield" could be merged in one, probably adding the "Shield" content in "Mental Shield", since the first is smaller than the second, and then deleting "Shield". With your permission, I might do it and tag "Shield" for deletion when I'm done. What do you think?
Best regards, [[User:Ngebendi|Ngebendi]] 07:44, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Revision as of 07:44, September 29, 2010


Pam, greetings.

May I inquire about the rules that should inform the categorization of pages? In the past few days, I've been working on them, trying to streamline the categories on a number of character pages, Charmed-Jay reinserted a number of them back, now you seem to be streamlining again. It looks like there's little consensus on what to do - certainly I have not understood what the objective is, and whether I can contribute toward it or it would be wiser to leave it to somebody else. Thanks! Ngebendi 22:14, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Practically, it is a pyramid - the most specific categories at the bottom, the more general higher up until you get the most general at the top. Fine with me; I am minimalist, the fewer categories the better. Some of Jay's points still need to be answered - he likes to add to a character what book/movie s/he appears in (can agree with that) and the character's gender (in my opinion, useless in most cases), but, at least, I can argue my case with some strenth. Many thanks! Ngebendi 06:29, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Template Team change

I would delete Template:Team, cause Template:Teams consits the all the funktions of Template:Team.  — Johannes Kalliauer (talk) Pic 13:19, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Useless page if I ever saw one.

Pam, greetings. It looks like I'm making a habit of it - I'm bothering you again.

There's a page, " Hi its me trisha" with nonsensical content, created by a TeeTree today at 14:51. It looks like a candidate for deletion, therefore I'm reporting it to you.

I'm not sure whether it is in the autoconfirmed user's privileges to mark a page as a candidate for deletion. If it is may I inquire how one does it: I'd rather do it the regular way rather than keeping bothering you when it's the case.

Many thanks!

Ngebendi 15:16, September 1, 2010 (UTC)


Heyy i was just woundering when does the featured character change??? reily has been the featured character for like ever!!

the above message was from Twilight_7115!!

Wow. Wasn't expecting that, lol.

First off, thanks a lot!! I started reading the message you left, and when I got to the delete part I thought it was going to be a warning to stop, lol!! So instead of dealing with my constant tagging of delete, you've made me an admin. I kid... In all seriousness, I really like this wiki and I will do my best to keep it as professional as I can. I'm sure I'll have questions in the future, but right now I'll start off slow. Again, really appreciate being granted administrative status. :) LuckyTimothy 04:29, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Leah Gibson

Looks like copied from IMDB.

My guess is that many new sizable articles are copied from there or Wikipedia, and left as such waiting to be properly meshed with the rest of the wiki. Since I had no idea on how to proceed, thanks for pointing the way. Ngebendi 19:51, September 5, 2010 (UTC)


how do you become a admin? I♥CarlisleCullen 16:13, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I was wondering whether you could help me and be an administrator on my twilight wikia. I would love it iff you could ask Charmed-Jay for me as well. If you leave a comment on my talk page and olet me know, I would appreciate that.

Thanks, I♥CarlisleCullen 17:31, September 6, 2010 (UTC)


I would like to become a admin on this wikia and prove myself and I need turstworthy people to help me on my newly made (yesterday!) wikia. please could you consider it and get back to me?

Thanks! I♥CarlisleCullen 09:53, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Update Twilight_Saga_Wiki:Contact#Administrators

LuckyTimothy is now an Administrator, so this page should be updated.

Please change it to 11 Administrators, or use

  2. {{NUMBERINGROUP:sysop}} or
  3. {{NUMINGROUP:sysop}}

that the number is always right, but then you would have the number 10 instead of the name ten.

e.g.: Change it to:

or Redirect to Twilight Saga Wiki:Administrators#Who_are_this_wiki.27s_administrators.3F
 — Johannes Kalliauer (talk) Pic 19:02, September 7, 2010 (UTC)


Pam, greetings.

I thought that the "Beta" category was struck down as invalid?

There is one, mentioning Leah Clearwater, Jacob Black, and Levi Uley as members. While the first two are entitled, I find nothing on Levi's page that supports the idea, and, since the only book I've read is Breaking Dawn, I can't draw on the canon.

Could you please let me know how to react?

Many thanks! Ngebendi 18:25, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! Ngebendi 22:22, September 8, 2010 (UTC)


Pam, greetings.

May I be impudent enough to throw my weight in BlondieEllie's favor? What there is, at least. I have little idea of what it takes to make an administrator, particularly a good one, but my interactions with her have thus far been positive - I believe she'll make an useful addition to the board.

Best regards, Ngebendi 06:56, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Well, it was worth a try. Ngebendi 17:37, September 12, 2010 (UTC)


sorry for me keep bugging you but I was wondering if you could tell me how to mkae someone a admin because i want to make someone a admin but I cant find a link or anything to mkae them one.

please reply asap!

thanks a lot,

I♥CarlisleCullen 17:22, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Rosalie and Jasper Hale

okay i thought because they had same last name it would be cool for them to have a page of their own sorry i created it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilk846 (talkcontribs)

Kiowa Gordon - Life

Hi, I've got a problem with the Kiowa Gordon page. In the contents list it says "Added by BlondieEllie life" and I can't work out how to get rid of it. Could you please try and sort it out?


BlondieEllie 19:03, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

It was the contents box showing the categories, but it's been sorted out.

BlondieEllie 20:03, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Breaking Dawn

Hi Pam, imdb says that Drew Roy and another person are rumored to be playing characters in Breaking Dawn, so should we tag it as a deletion or just wait until its official?

Twifan_signature.png [usertalk]

Deleted page and links to Wikipedia.

Pam, greetings.

As a consequence of a link on Kiova Gordon's page that went to Wikipedia, yesterday evening I created a page about the Hualapai, and BlondieEllie and I have tried to fill it with little agrement and success. Now it has vanished from the wiki, along with all references to it on my contribution page. Do you happen to know whether it has been deleted, and shouldn't, however, its contribution history remain?

Still on Gordon's page, three links go directly to wikipedia: one to the Arizona article, one to Gordon's high school, one to the high school's town. Given the above for Gordon's Native American tribe, how do I behave with them?

Many thanks! Ngebendi 02:26, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Thought it was something along these lines, but had to ask. Many thanks! Ngebendi 05:30, September 13, 2010 (UTC)


Thanks for the info! I'll let LuckyTimothy know - he's the shy one. :) Ngebendi 06:33, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism on Caius.

Pam, greetings.

Caius behavior in the saga sure would earn him any and all vandalism one could give him, but it's always a pain having to revert it. This unregistered user with IP was at it, and while I know you can't even smack him on his fingers, I'm reporting the fact. Luckily I could also fix a spelling mistake.

At this point, I'd imagine you've gauged my ignorance of the canon, me not having read anything other than Breaking Dawn and having seen Eclipse - the abovementioned number soup has raised quite a major point. Other than the five hybrids mentioned in Breaking Dawn, are there other vampire offspring in the canon? Two have been attributed to Caius, I would think when he was still human. Quite nonsensically, in my opinion; no reason for them to appear. Best regards. Ngebendi 21:15, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Ngebendi 06:44, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

New Moon book to movie diff.]

I saw that you changed New Moon book to movie differences against the common style: Twilight_Saga_Wiki:Manual_of_Style#Bold_and_italics

For more infos look: Talk:New_Moon_book_to_movie_differences

I don't know why you deleted <i></i> and <em></em>:

  1. cause you think '''' would be better, or
  2. did you think we shouldn't write it italics

I use <i></i><b></b> because I think it is easier to understand the code, cause you know when something starts and something ends. Sometimes (especially on Quote-sites) I see something like '''''', which doesn't work cause there are 6', and you don't know why someone added them: to stop the italics, or to start the bold.

Which should I use:

  1. '' '' and ''' '''
    1. which are common but are sometimes a little bit confusing
  2. <i> </i> and <b> </b>
    1. which are a good alternatives, I would like to be allowed to use them if I write a new text
  3. <em> </em> and <strong> </strong>
    1. which are sometimes a little bit long

 — Johannes Kalliauer (talk) Pic 16:54, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Bella's cottage

I have inlcuded this page as a category in the Character homes page, so could you please delete the page with the same name? thanks!

BlondieEllie 18:12, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Twilight biology.

Is it just me, or I am followed more or less closely and gimlet-eyedly from higher up in the site hierarchy? :)

BTW, you did well to post that warning - this kind of speculation, though not strictly applicable to fantasy and romance, are what I like best. And is still speculation.

Ngebendi 21:53, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Can't say you're wrong. Ngebendi 09:18, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Trish Egan rollback

I doubt you remember, but you rolled back my edit on that page. I just wanted to let you know I wasn't running amok with superfluous categorization. I got in auto-mode in editing and skimmed the page, seeing the mention of Forks High receptionist and saw what I thought was a needed category. I didn't realize it was the actress, and not the character. I don't want you to think that I'm wrongly categorizing to get those shiny badges. 22px-SMirC-tongue.svg.png LuckyTimothy 15:47, September 19, 2010 (UTC)


Pam greetings.

According to Wordreference (my favorite online dictionary), and Merriam Webster "Paralysis" is indeed a proper noun. Haven't consulted OED as probably I should have done, but did not want to pay the fee...

Ngebendi 20:05, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Looked out the definitions for the terms, and you're right. Thanks for providing the occasion. :) Ngebendi 01:32, September 20, 2010 (UTC)


I just noticed the info for the wiki's upgrade, and if it is not pulling wood on my eyes, I'd like to help. Within my limits, of course, the real techie is Kalliauer, but it is always worth learning something new. Is it all right to ask you, or, if not, whom should I ask? Thanks! Ngebendi 10:47, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

I would also like to help as a Volunteer.  — Johannes Kalliauer (talk) Pic 11:03, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks! Ngebendi 07:22, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Why am I the only one who adds issues to Twilight_Saga_Wiki:New_Look#Report_a_problem, did I misunderstood something?
Or should I ask Sena@Wikia
 — Johannes Kalliauer (talk) Pic 17:17, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Categories organisation

Can you please tell me how to organize the categories right, cause I think there is an existing order, but I don't know it.
User:Ngebendi told me that I could ask User:Charmed-Jay, cause I asked Ngebendi.
User:Charmed-Jay told me that I should try to ask you, cause I asked him.
 — Johannes Kalliauer (talk) Pic 07:03, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

website skin

how come the websites skin has been changed??? i liked it better the other way!!!:) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Twilight 7115 (talkcontribs)



I cared about Special:WantedCategories, and found that

  1. Category:By_Species
  2. Category:Species

exists, but I think we could join them.


Why are none of the Cullens (adoptive siblings) in Category:Siblings?

I thought it maybe has a reason, because the I always orient on the main characters, cause there the categories normally fits.
I created Category:Adoptive siblings.


I think it is is a little bit confusing, that 8 of 10 Administrators are in Category:Administrators. I think User:Operation Twilight and User:Bella Swan are inactive, but they should also be listed there.


"This is a page with the name of Immortal children and their creator"
― Hole content of Category:Immortal_Child

But I think, if I would add Category:Immortal_Child to the creator Sasha, it would be a little bit confusing.

I marked Category:Immortal_Child for deletion. (now a Special:UnusedCategories)

Sorry for nerving you with Categories

"You should really ask CharmedJay - he's the one who worked the most on categories. Or to TagAlongPam - when I've tried to do more than correcting the obvious, I got scolded. Sorry."
Ngebendi 15:16, September 20, 2010 (UTC) on User_talk:JoKalliauer#Re:_Categories_organisation
"I'm not the one in charge. Try to ask User:TagAlongPam. She's the one who organizes the categories. Last time I tried to add new ones, she yelled at me. Well, not really, but you know..."
User:Charmed-Jay on User talk:Charmed-Jay/@comment-JoKalliauer/@comment-Charmed-Jay

I thought it would be more intelligent to ask you, before changing something (Pointless edits).

You shouldn't resent the fact that people say you "scolded" or "yelled" at them, cause I think they didn't mean it like they said, they just wanted to explain me, why it is better to ask someone else, without sounding lazy, because they don't know exactly how to organize Categories right.
Sorry for using the word yelled myself (deleted it now with this change), I didn't want to criticize you but I think I am a newbie, who doesn't know everything.
Now I think I know what you meant with you need experience for an Adminship:
It's not important how many awards you collected or how many edits you made, I think it is more important that you know what is right and what doesn't fit to the default style.
Johannes Kalliauer Pic

New Look

Hello Pam, I'm sorry for bothering you when I'm sure you're very busy but I'm a little puzzled and upset by the New Look. The old version of the wiki looked better and was much easier to use, wheras the new one is complicated to use and has several small but irritating problems which I have posted on Jo Kalliauer's talk page. These include:

– The person who uploaded an image's name is shown underneath the image. It looks bad and frankly, who cares?

– My "awards" are all seperated, not in a "block" or grouped like they used to be. Can you please rectify this promptly?

– I was not forewarned about the "New Look" and think that the old version of the website looked better and was easier to use.

– There's a "give feedback" icon at the top left-hand corner of my screen that won't go away despite me having given feedback and attempted to get rid of it.

– My "signature" doesn't link to my talk page.

– There's no "My home" page anymore, making it impossible to know if the pages I'm following or have created have been modified or not since I last edited them. This is the most annoying.

Please could you try and sort these problems out or revert to the old page? As you're the "chief" administrator I thought it best to speak directly to you, as the New Look is making my life very hard and I'm finding editing and contributing to the wiki more difficult. I truly don't mean to complain or be unpleasant, I'm just a little upset and annoyed. Thank you very much, and I hope we can get everything sorted out. =)

Kindest regards,

BlondieEllie 20:08, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Eclipse book to movie differences introduction bold

I don't know how often you changed the introduction to be half bolded;
but I think it looks weird (as TLE already said), also I didn't change it;
cause it doesn't make sense, to bold the entire first sentence (as you said)

So I think:
The following are noted differences between the original Eclipse novel and the movie.
would be the best
JoKalliauer Pic 07:59, September 24, 2010 (UTC)


I added {{delete}} to some pages, LuckyTimothy already deleted many, but I think you should delete File:Thumb-Brady.png soon, cause it is used on many pages: {{Quileute Packs}}

  • Jacob Black
  • Sam Uley
  • Leah Clearwater
  • Seth Clearwater
  • Jared
  • Embry Call
  • Paul
  • Quil Ateara
  • Collin
  • Brady
  • Quileute tribe
  • User:Charmed-Jay

It was my mistake:

Then {{Quileute Packs}} didn't work any longer:
There stood the text File:Thumb-Brady.png instead of a picture.

Johannes Kalliauer Pic 17:51, September 25, 2010 (UTC)


Hi. I chose you because you're the top most admin on the Contact page. I'm the lead admin over at Redwall. Please tell me about your main page slider - how it works, how you got it, etc. -- LordTBT Talk! 20:48, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

So is my inquiry intentionally being ignored here?
-- LordTBT Talk! 04:35, September 28, 2010 (UTC) on User_talk:LordTBT#Re_User_talk:TagAlongPam.23Slider
I already answered User:LordTBT on LordTBT's Talkpage, that I said User:LordTBT should ask an expert.
I thought I tell you, cause you won't watch/follow all talkpages.
 — Johannes Kalliauer (talk) Pic 08:53, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Out of curiosity...

Pam, greetings.

All these recent requests for adminship made me sufficiently curious to ask you what would be your answer if I were to ask for it myself. Since reading the books is likely a requirement I will not fulfill, and the new wiki layout volunteering has been a blunder, I doubt very much I will step up, but, well, there's a soft spot in everybody.

As usual, apologies for bothering you. Ngebendi 23:33, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Truth to tell, I'm not sure; or, perhaps, my ego would like to write a check my body won't cash. The only thing I'm actually good at is copyediting (you can do it by checking the content of a page against the rest of the wiki), the only right I might find useful is that of deleting pages (which I do not really need anyway - tagging a page I don't like is likely enough); I have got no judgement for pictures, and I have followed comments just when they have been flung at me. And blogs are complete strangers. Plus, I've got the feeling that there are already enough admin on the list, though I may be wrong.

I guess we'll have to see how it shakes out. Ngebendi 07:14, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Pack shielding.

Thanks for answering. :) Will see what some application of skull sweat will bring out. Ngebendi 21:26, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Shield and Mental Shield.

Pam, greetings.

I was thinking that the articles "Shield" and "Mental Shield" could be merged in one, probably adding the "Shield" content in "Mental Shield", since the first is smaller than the second, and then deleting "Shield". With your permission, I might do it and tag "Shield" for deletion when I'm done. What do you think?

Best regards, Ngebendi 07:44, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

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