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RE: Magazine photoshootsEdit

I'm so sorry for creating all those pages! But at least I know what not to do in the future. Thanks, and it won't ever happen again.

TeamTaycob 04:12, September 1, 2011 (UTC)


hey TagAlongPam, I envy you becuz of being a admin! from Cullen's are HOT!!!—Preceding unsigned comment added by Cullen's are HOT!!! (talkcontribs)

Did I do this right? Edit

I usually stay away from renaming pictures because past times for me seems to have gone screwy. But a user asked me to do one because, as is the case most of the times, they uploaded with a generic "001.jpg" title. That replaced a picture of Ashley Greene doing some calisthenics that was the same named. I renamed it "AshleyWorkout.jpg". Just wanted to make sure I'm doing this right for future use. A link of the history. LuckyTimothy 16:34, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

Well.... I guess didn't do exactly 100% right, lol. Yeah, I'm not sure why the user's picture is still there. I give up. ;) LuckyTimothy 20:26, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

Cullen's are Hot!!! Edit

Pam, this is somewhat of a hot potato I'm dumping in your hands, but I believe that user Cullen's are Hot!!! needs at least a reminder from an admin - I've repeatedly told her that the proper place for her material is her blog page, not main pages, and she won't listen (perhaps appropriately, since I've not minced words). The pages currently in contention are: This is a bit from The Twilight Saga Breaking Dawn part one Comic Con, started as a main page, and with a Twilight-related content, and Cullen's are HOT!!!/Daniel Morcombe, started as a blog, moved to a main page, but with a content not even remotely related to Twilight. Charmed Jay is not going to follow through, so that leaves you, since I've got the most contacts with you.

My apologies, 08:17, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks - even though it's for one of the less pleasant aspects of the job. 20:13, September 3, 2011 (UTC)
Just to cross an I and dot a T: the Daniel Morcombe blog post by Cullen is now a regular blog post - but is marked for deletion nonetheless. Would it be possible to unmark it? Thanks again! 07:28, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. It'll please you, I hope, that a vacation prevents me from bothering you for the next ten days. I'm sure Harryanime will prove a valid addition to the team - not that (s)he'll face anything too onerous. 16:39, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

I'd expect that Cullen does not really care - perhaps by next strike she should be blocked for a heftier length of time, six months or some such. 06:52, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

 :::sigh::: You're probably right. 16:22, September 18, 2011 (UTC)
No, I wouldn't think so; considering that I've posted a number of times on Cullen's page on the topic and she hasn't listened, and she got blocked three times in two weeks for the self same reason, I've become somewhat jaded - perhaps she doesn't care. I originally thought that perhaps the language I'm using is not conductive to any positive reaction, but it's probably not the case. 06:11, September 19, 2011 (UTC)
Well, possibly. 12:16, September 19, 2011 (UTC)
 :::sigh:::I am sorry for those:::sigh::: I am please forgive me:::sigh:::


But it's also true that Nikki and Kellan an have a good relationship! I wanna include that!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pb2346 (talkcontribs)

What gender is a coven? Edit

Since this appears to be the kind of escalating situation between Charmed-Jay and me, I thought to drop you a note. Though Hilda's (and the Amazon, I could add) is an all-female coven, I'd be hard pressed to apply the label to the term "coven" itself.

Best, 06:47, September 23, 2011 (UTC)

As you say, it's not that important - it just seemed the start of one of those escalations between CJ and me, which I'd rather much try to avoid. If he wants to change the categorization again, I'll leave it be. 07:12, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Scream WikiEdit

Hello there, can you make me a Admin on the Scream wiki. I have been there for quite sometime now and I've done alot of good suggestions and page debuts for people. However, I have noticed that some Admins are not using their Adminship right and alot of pages have been blocked and know one not even the supposedly good Admins are not doing it. So I was wondering to end this talk of becoming an Admin and improve Wiki's as much as I can and I promise i'll do the best I can, Thank You. Ddill 20:43, September 23, 2011 (UTC)

I've got to be an Admin, there is this one Admin that blocked me FOR NO REASON. That's not what a good Admin would do. He lied about giving this Admin his word by doing his work right but blocking me for no reason is wrong. There is vandals. Please make me an Admin before the Scream Wiki gets controlled by User:SeleneGoddess please. You'll be doing the Wiki a big favor. I hope you hear my message. Ddill 20:42, September 23, 2011 (UTC)
Do you know how or who can help me become an Admin. Ddill 22:36, September 23, 2011 (UTC)
It would appear earned a day-long block for irregularly creating a number of pages. 02:53, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

AliciaXX Edit

May be worth its while to get a warning to AliciaXX - told her to pay attention to how she categorizes pages, but she does not seem to heed it. 13:33, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

As usual, thanks. 18:04, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

emm okay then ALICIAXX :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aliciaxx (talkcontribs)

Thank you so much.Edit

TagAlongPam, thanks for the rollback rights. A couple of hackers (who I think were all the same person, just under different accounts, but whatever) just came by and vandalized a couple of articles and even my user page. Without the rollback rights, I wouldn't have been able to fix all of that so easily. Thank you!

TeamTaycob 21:37, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

"Sorry TagAlongPam"Edit

Sorry for the the edits blogs and pages. If you read them first on my page first you can comment me a message to see if it is related or not TagAlongPam. Plus this won't happen again, I will not have my account blocked. Sorry for all of this. It was not nessacry! If I can prove to you for a good year. Can you make me an admin. If not, I will totally understand! Thanks for all the warnings. Cullen's are HOT!!! "Mrs Isabella Marie Cullen 04:46, September 25, 2011 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cullen's are HOT!!! (talkcontribs)

Unlikely admin requests... Edit

Except for a failure to understand how much of a bother it implies, what's there in an adminship to make so many people ask for it? Particularly the unlikeliest candidates, and on a wiki that does not really need any more admins?

It's lucky that thus far they've not asked to become a bureaucrat! 18:00, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

It is pretty much a given, if I correctly surmised the demographics of the wiki... 18:50, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

How do Do you create a signture that is coloured and a different font!Edit

I am wondering TagAlongPam if you can send me the information to make my signture like yours and Charmed.

I have been trying my hardest to change it. How do you. Please can you teach me.

from User:Cullen's are HOT!!! talk page

Blog posts - Nana214 and Yaayaa Edit

The first action of these two characters Nana214 and Yaayaa is to create two blog posts each (one in German, the other three in Danish) which appear to have a purely commercial content - I wouldn't know whether you can delete them and block the authors? Thanks! 07:39, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

P.S. The devil knows that the regular publicity by wikia is bad enough!

I thought that at this point you knew who the multi-IP hidden editor was! :-P 16:29, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
P.S. Thanks to you anyway.
You certainly can, but... for something I would have done anyway? :) 21:42, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
In this case, :) 09:53, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

Question Edit

Hello. I seen you edited and added a photo to my user page. I was wondering why. Thanks. :) Team-Jacob GirlCullencrest"I'm betting on Alice" 15:03, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, okay. On the Recent Wiki Activity it said you added a photo. I'm really sorry that I bothered you. Thanks for taking time to answer my dumb question. :) Team-Jacob GirlCullencrest"I'm betting on Alice" 16:04, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

Usual category problem Edit

I was thinking - this "Major characters" category is confusingly built.

The Cullen family, allright: Alice, Carlisle, Edward. Esme, Renesmee and Jasper probably. But Rosalie and Emmett? And most importantly, the treaty, which is categorized under both Quileute and Cullen Family, but certainly is no character at all? The Narrators, which I guess are the most important characters at all, aren't categorized as such at all. I'm going to categorize narrators as major characters, but how do we play the Cullens?

Best, MinorStoop 08:48, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Truth to tell, categorizing the treaty under Quileute and not also under Cullen Family is quite lame, particularly since the Volturi Confrontation and the Newborn Army Battle are categorized as just Event. I've therefore removed also the Quileute leg. 16:52, October 15, 2011 (UTC)
It may come as a surprise to you but I surmised that much! :-P But I dreaded the quagmire we'd get into in trying to categorize of the Volturi confrontation to something more than Events. 21:03, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

New video module test Edit

Hey TagAlongPam - Just wanted to let you know about the blog post I just posted here. Your wiki has been chosen to test our new video module - read all the details here. Let me know if you have any questions or concerns. I also will be leaving a message for Charmed-Jay and LuckyTimothy. If you feel other admins should know as well - please share my blog post with them. Cheers, Sarah@fandom (help forum | blog) 18:20, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

My signtureEdit

I was wondering if you can send me the link to finally make my signture. I am sorry about All the edits and blogs. I meant not to offend any of you's. I am learning now. I am posting relvent stuff. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cullen's are HOT!!! (talkcontribs)

Thanks. Edit

As usual, it turns out that you're the voice of reason in this madhouse we're working on - I seem to have a tendency to suspect maliciousness even when it's likely to be simple witlessness, as with this RenessmeCullenLover person.

While we're at it, I notice that there are five or six blog posts by Cullens Are Hot!!! under "Candidates for deletion" that, judging by their edit history, have been tagged by his/herself on October 2nd. Am not sure what to make of them.

Best, 03:51, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

Locked pages? Edit

Just curious, but why are some pages locked from editing (e.g. Bella Swan, The Olympic Coven)? --Love and Lust 04:07, October 25, 2011 (UTC)

Pic's Edit

Now if all the gallery's are locked then how are we supposed to get awards for Pictures? —Preceding unsigned comment added by CharmeRuler (talkcontribs)

User:MinerStoop Edit

Will you please stop User:MinorStoop reverting my edits when im just [[]] i will go to WIKI STAFF ! and i wannt him stooping TODAy CharmeRuler TalkContrib 11:46, October 25, 2011 (UTC)!

Feedback request. Edit

With EdwardJacobBella and CullensAreHot!!! before him, the recent exploits of CharmeRuler make me ponder some.

EJB and CAH periods of wild edits can be considered as physiological pains of growth, I think, and now they are productive members of the wiki, whatever "productive" means now. With his reactions and history of blockage on Scream and Charmed (six months on one of the two), CharmeRuler does not impress me, and it's perhaps too soon to tell what will come out of him.

Considering however that I sort of clashed with all three of them about their editing with no success, I wonder where I could have improved. Suggestions? 12:38, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

You know, I've also come to believe that the language is the most critical element - I also think it needs to get mellower; or perhaps I just need to recognize that blog-writing, commenting and patronizing the chatroom is as dignified as wiki-building. (It's not. Grunt. Shoulder-stoop.)
As for the account, I'm not sure: we've seen CharmeRuler. Or perhaps he's confirmation of your point: he tucked his tail between his legs when he failed to get backup. Thus far twice. However, I got forced to use an account for the protected pages - it was no longer feasible to call for help whenever there was a need to operate on them. Allright, if it's important, I'll log in to better make my point. 07:44, October 28, 2011 (UTC)
And, as usual when it's important, I forgot to thank you. So I'm doing it now - for your explanation and your patience. 20:48, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Forks, Washington. Edit

I noticed a funny thing about the eponymous page - it's been semiprotected for three years. I was wondering what's actually the policy for protection; just set the minimum level of protection allowable by the situation and then forget it? Not that I need "Forks" to be unprotected (can always log in, if needed), but it most definitely does not seem a major target for vandalism any longer. Best, 20:53, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

P.S. And thanks, since I seem to remember for all the minor details.

It'll be somewhat of a bitch - soon as I have a bit of time (probably on Tuesday), I'll see to it that I lend you a hand or two. 01:06, October 31, 2011 (UTC) (P.S. How does lending a prehensile tail strike you? :-P)
Seems you're stuck with the grasping tail. :) Most of the protected pictures are self-explanatory, and the ones who aren't, aren't worth the effort. However, it is not clear to me the discrepancy in the protection of Alice and Renesmee Cullen (non protected) on one side and the Cullen family members+Jacob Black (semiprotected) on the other. Does not seem that the first two are subject to greater vandalism than the other ones since you freed them. Just curiosity. 09:11, October 31, 2011 (UTC)
Personally, I'm in favor of removing protection, partly for prejudice, partly because at this point the wiki is sturdy enough to withstand quite a lot, I believe. But I also recognize that prudence is often the best part of valor, so I'll defer. :) Thanks! 09:58, November 1, 2011 (UTC)
 :::Taking off peacock-plumed hat, and bowing to the floor::: 18:36, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

Six degrees of separation... Edit

This trivia about R. Pattinson being a descendant of Dracula (not in the page, but being a distant cousin of the UK royals and a distant relative of S. Meyer are also mentioned) seems a case of six degrees of separation - so much so that pretty much everybody is quoting it. Except perhaps the very site TeamTaycobSoDealWithIt ( is quoting. How do we confirm/disprove it? Thanks and best. :) 22:29, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

Who, me? It seems to have gone viral - one of those memetic plagues that hit the 'net worse than the flu. I haven't got the imagination for the task, so I've struck it down. Perhaps, TeamTaycob is motivated enough to do it. 01:01, October 31, 2011 (UTC)


This is a very nice website for Twilight fans like me.. Too bad i haven't seen this earlier.. Well.. Better late that never! xD Smyzzyx 07:28, November 3, 2011 (UTC)Smyzzyx <3
I run with vampires

General silliness. Edit

For whatever it's worth, I was going to wish you a happy 16.000th edit, but you beat me to the punch - so I'm going to wish you a happy 16.005th anyway... :-P 17:43, November 5, 2011 (UTC), raising in toast whatever container of your favourite alcoholic beverage.


Ok, I'm not trying to be rude with this message. Just wanted to get that out. But could you please explain to me why you undedited (or undid, need better words) my edit? I added the words to explain what the vampire scent was muting. The way it was, it was like a broken sentence. Again I'm not trying to be rude. And I really would like to hear your side. Thank you

Chocolate Bunneh —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chocolate Bunneh (talkcontribs)

Ok, I see what your saying. Actually, when I was typing, it seemed to me that the sentence was too long. Thanks for your input. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chocolate Bunneh (talkcontribs)


Hey Pam!

My name is Kate and I'm a member of Wikia staff. I've seen you on various wikis that I focus on including Twilight. I know you're aware of a problem and wanted to let you know that I'd like to be of assistance. One of the users continually uses blog/top ten topics as pages and since I've been spotlighting Twilight Saga Wiki for Breaking Dawn (and it's getting even more traffic) I'd like to help you fix it.

We can talk more over chat if you like, so let me know what you think! And feel free to involve the other admins as well.

Kate_03.png@fandom (talk) 20:27, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I must have been looking at the wrong time frame. It looks like everything is properly categorized. Thanks for being on top of it. And yes that was the user I was referring to.

Thanks and let me know if you or the other admins need help :)

Kate_03.png@fandom (talk) 19:35, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

My Breaking Dawn (Films) QuestionsEdit

  • I am wondering who is Ali Faulkner.
  • Plus Olga Fonda is Gianna.
  • Because it actually states in the IMDB page of The Twilight Saga Breaking Dawn Part One Cast.
  • So that we can discuss this as formally. I am sorry again. Please forgive me.
  • Do you know where i can get more Tv spots

"Mrs Isabella Marie Cullen 11:22, November 11, 2011 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cullen's are HOT!!! (talkcontribs)

Administrative requestEdit

Can I be an admin? I KNOW like EVERYTHING in the saga! Or the beau. thing?????


FashionGal 17:46, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

OK. How about maybe at least a month of editing, until I can be an admin? Deal?

FashionGal 20:29, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

FINE! I'll stay for as long as it takes. gosh.


FashionGal 20:38, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

hello.. Edit

HEY. how are you?

Lovetwilightsaga 23:06, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

Stubs and candidates for deletion. Edit


seems that you have an unconscious dislike for the {{stub}} instruction, 'cause you regularly add the category to a page instead of the template. Wish I knew what it means... :)

However, I thought you may want to be reminded about there being a page and three or four blogs marked for deletion, the first is the page for "Christie Burke" you and LuckyTimothy were discussing about, the latter marked as such by their writers.

Best, 03:09, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Though there was more than a touch of my own bluntness in the stub part (:-P) it's by no means an imposition - _I_ like having the line at the bottom of the article. Got to justify my presence on the wiki, don't I? :) Besides, with the words of Isaac Asimov: happiness is doing it your rotten own way, or whatever the exact diction was.
Didn't expect the Burke page being dealt with right away, but the candidates for deletion page tends to be filled, albeit slowly, if somebody does not bring it to an admin's attention regularly. As usual, thanks. 05:47, November 18, 2011 (UTC)


Dear Pam,

I wanted to ask you (and the other admins) if I could put up a slider linking to the Breaking Dawn: Part 1 Review Page temporarily.

Let me know!

Kate_03.png@fandom (talk) 18:55, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't know you guys had that, I'll redirect right now, thanks for the heads-up!

Kate_03.png@fandom (talk) 22:15, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

BD1 StuffEdit

Hey, Pam, not sure if you remember me (Twilightslastgleaming / VERITĀS ĀÉQUITĀS) but anyway - I'd like to update the Faction Portal on the main page to better reflect where the story is in the film series. Let me know what you think of the ideas I've been kicking around so far:

  • Splitting the packs in two so we have a section for both Sam's pack and Jacob's pack
  • Adding a Nomads section either in addition to, or replacing "Seattle Newborn Army"
  • Adding another row to Olympic and Volturi to fit in more characters.

Also wondering about a small banner either on the main page, on the Breaking Dawn page, or possibly in a pop-up community notice - directing people to Breaking Dawn book to movie differences so we can get people involved there and get it filled out. I think a blog post about it would get lost very quickly on such an active blog feed.

Hit me up on my talk page and let me know how you feel about any of these. :) (profile)•(talk)•(email) 02:21, November 19, 2011 (UTC)
The more prominent nomads from BD book three - Garrett, Mary, Randall, Peter, Charlotte, Alistair, Charles, Makenna... If we add a row to the Olympic coven & Volturi - that allows for 8 characters - So for the nomads, the 8 named above would make a nice round number. Have to think of an emblem though, maybe a crest shield with a fancy "N" would work.
I think the Community Message would be best, I don't want to take up another Slider spot for it, and this way even people who never visit the main page will get the message, and anyone who has already seen it won't have to see it every time they do.
Also, would you mind if I changed the Twitter feed on the main page to have colors that actually match the skin theme? (profile)•(talk)•(email) 06:17, November 19, 2011 (UTC)
I considered adding the new covens as well, but I think the portal would start to get too long, creating a blank area in the left column, and possibly requiring a main page redesign to account for it. If you're up for that, I have some time this coming week that I could put into it. The nomads seemed like sort of a neutral faction to add, since once you add Denali for instance, you sort of have to add them all. If you are open to adding more characters to the Volturi and Olympic covens, and splitting the wolf packs up, then this will be an issue regardless. I'll get to work on some concepts tomorrow and see if I can get some examples to show you. :)
The new Twitter feed is up on the main page, it's a newer version with a scroll bar and more than just the last 2 tweets. ;) By the way, how did you like BD1? I worked the Premiere Event last year in CA with Xean & Kmanwing but there wasn't one this year. :( I still went to the midnight premiere though, just here in town... (profile)•(talk)•(email) 05:38, November 20, 2011 (UTC)
Got the "ok" from the boss to do some work on it, so I'll run some looks by you when I get them put together. :) Did you see what I did with the book to movie differences pages? (spoiler warning, uniform image sizes, navigation)
The movie was pretty good, but I mean at the end of the day it's still a Twilight movie, and the books will always be much better. To say much more about it would venture into spoiler territory. :P (profile)•(talk)•(email) 04:33, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Adminship repeal - perhaps the damnedest request you got... Edit

Since Ngebendi's adminship is long since dead and developing moulds, it may very well be repealed, I guess. There's no longer any use for it - personally I think I have pretty much shown how much interest I've got in an adminship, and you may want to know (or to be reminded) that staff does not generally reactivate accounts; no way to verify peoples' identity.

I beg to differ with the appellation of "horrible admin". You seem to be exercising a pretty good influence on the wiki. And let's not kid ourselves into believing that Twilight is good fiction/cinema or anything more than a passing fad to be utterly forgotten twenty (ten!) years hence.

Thanks, 09:10, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

The repealing is appreciated, many thanks. And I _still_ maintain that yours is a pretty poor justification for the appellative "horrible"; seen the movie today (unremarkable, like so many Hollywood movies) and though it sticks pretty good to the book, I'd be hard pressed to write the summary for the relevant page. Still best, 22:11, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Spoiler AlertsEdit

I agree, they should not be on any of the rest of the content pages, or main page - it just occurred to me that with the couple differences I listed on BD1, I was giving things away even for those who have read the book. You're right though, it's not a situation where someone is looking up very general information on the series to see if they might be interested, and then having it ruined for them unexpectedly. I'll probably take them down unless you object. (profile)•(talk)•(email) 21:46, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Your thoughts on pictures Edit

I refer to the ones on Renesmee's page. I don't know if you've seen the movie nor not, so I wouldn't want to direct you to a page that spoils something. Basically they have pictures when she is grown. They are extremely LQ and I know somebody essentially screenshot them from a bootleg movie. I'm split on what to do. I'm not such a stickler for stuff that has to bee 100% legal, but I'd like to keep this place as copyright friendly as it can be. LuckyTimothy 01:36, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

Yep, went ahead and removed them. I imagine they will keep getting put on the page -- I'll have to keep an eye out for them. LuckyTimothy 16:37, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Latest batch of deletions. Edit

I notice that in the candidates for deletion there are four items left, Christie Burke being still on hold. Yesterday, I went over the broken redirects list, and marked what I could for deletion - the items left apparently pertaining to four users, are as I said just broken links, waiting for an admin to go over them. I'm not sure why CharmedJay passed them over, since he proceeded with the rest.

Still in the broken redirects there is a Top ten list, which I can't touch either registered or not and a number of false links to comments, most of them to the Collin and Element Manipulation pages, but are apparently linking to the page instead to a specific comment. They may technically be impossible to remove, I have no idea.

Went also over the double redirect, which are just shy of 200. Fairly silly to have a link that points to another link, but I'd be inclined to leave them alone - do not fix what's not broken, essentially. Let me know if it's allright with you or I should break 'em down to single redirects to their final destinations. Thanks! MinorStoop 06:08, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

For the double redirects, I see we are of a mind. Thanks! :) 13:51, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

What's going on? Edit


I've already contacted community support about this, but after 8 or 9 months in which I bona fide thought this account was closed, I discover (on nonciclopedia, mistakenly believing it wikipedia) that it can be accessed with my old password. I'm pretty sure I did not divulge said password, but I happened to contact support a couple months back with an inquiry of reactivating it and was told it was not done, since it is practically impossible to verify the identity of their previous owner. And recently I asked you to downgrade its privileges (now that I think about it, rollback rights were not explained - they may be now). Since I scrambled the password (with an eye at not remembering it) and deleted my email address from the field, I'm sure I haven't accessed it.

It's an understatement that I'm more than a little puzzled, and somewhat worried - may I inquire whether you have an idea of what's going on? I can think only of two things: either the upgrades since then had reverted the password (doubtful but not impossible), or somebody with the privileges reinstated my old password, either at my request a couple of months back (why should they have told me they couldn't?) or at, beg your forgiveness, because I do not mean any offense, at your prompting (no, I'm not interested in resuming adminship, nor in this account other than understanding what's going on. I'm sorry.) Ngebendi 16:01, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Update from community support; in their opinion, which makes a lot of sense, I *thought* I scrambled my password, without actually *managing* it. It certainly is the most economical explanation, and I certainly do not remember the details of what I did then - I just wasn't cool about the whole shebang. Not that I'm that much cooler now, truth to tell. As a consequence, it seems I implicated you with no reason at all, in which case, you'll rate an abjectly groveling apology from me... Ngebendi 18:24, November 25, 2011 (UTC), still oversensitive to the whole isssue, damn!
You still rate the apology. Well, I'll see what to do with it. And thanks anyway. Ngebendi 03:13, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

New "template" in Bella Swan page? Edit

Noticed you inserted what looks like a new template in Bella Swan page, stating: {{Protected|semi|indefinite|move=sysop}}. Is it there to stay, how should we react and should it be inserted in other pages?

Thanks! 03:17, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. 22:19, November 26, 2011 (UTC)


While I'm at it, I'd appreciate some feedback on an idea; the "Couple" category encompasses a fairly heterogeneous bunch of people, quasi-humans being most of them. I was thinking that perhaps some additional categories may be added - I'd go as low in the tree as feasible; the coven or the pack would be my first guess. What do you think? Thanks! 22:19, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

No. We have Alice and Jasper who are Olympic Coven, Benjamin and Tia who are Egyptians, Angela and Ben who are Forks High students and so on, and I was thinking to categorize them also as such. 05:13, November 27, 2011 (UTC)
Perfectly - the category still seems a jumble but can't object to your idea. Thanks! 07:09, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

The Twilight Saga Breaking Dawn Part Two Timer!Edit!!!/BD_part_two_timer

this is my blog about the Breaking Dawn Part Two timer. If you read this it will give you my question. I know this is so much to ask, but I liked the timer for part one. Please can you put it back on! I liked watch it when it was on its last minute.

thanks, —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cullen's are HOT!!! (talkcontribs)

Photopop categoryEdit

It does not happen often, but I agree with CJ: no matter who's behind this Photopop category looks like junk. To say the least, the game should have been clearly publicized somewhere, if it actually has come out.

But it is not this that concerns me most - there should be an announcement section on the home page for everybody to notice in case of just such notices, something on the line of your announcement of galleries blocks. I got in the same position of Jay when this photopop thing came out, only with Kmanwing in your place. He referred me to Dopp's blog, but who ever goes to a blog for it? Certainly not me, with my edit history! Best, MinorStoop 13:21, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Yep, that's the sore point - we don't like it but we can't do a goddamn thing about it. And that's why I'm more interested in having a true and working messageboard on the homepage - an expansion on your announcement on the gallery locking. Any way for me to volunteer to manage it, once set up (I do not know how to) and some training, without admin privileges? It does not really seem a big burden.
This is if I expressed myself clearly. MinorStoop 17:00, November 29, 2011 (UTC)
Contacted the staff about it, we'll see what they have to say - I'm a bit concerned about the homepage being locked and me not wanting admin rights. Best, MinorStoop 12:30, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Pam, I got word from community - they suggest that a possible solution to he locked main page is a template linked to it and that I can edit. Since I've never worked with templates, I have no idea how it works, but I'll do some experimentation. Best, MinorStoop 18:17, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Truth to tell, that message on the "recent activity" page linking to the gallery size announcement got me thinking. My working hypothesis it is tht you added a "news bar" template to the page with a redirect, and I suspect that it may be the answer to our problem; it probably enjoys an even better visibility than the main page. How do you access the recent activity page? MinorStoop 18:35, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Got that right - no "preview" or "publish" button, and the editor's box is disabled. Let's see what happens working with templates; should something strange pop up, it's likely to be me experimenting. MinorStoop 15:50, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Blog gone waaay wrongEdit

Hi, A few months ago I posted a blog about a rumor I heard on the internet and I wanted to know peoples opinions about it and it just turned into a big argument. I was wondering if there was a way you could delete it for me?


Bells(talk) 01:32, December 4, 2011 (UTC)Bellscullen

It's "Bella Thorne older Renesmee"?.

Bells(talk) 19:31, December 4, 2011 (UTC)Bellscullen

Woosh. Edit

Your frivolousness is an aspect of you I did not know yet, and it makes a refreshing change when compared to certain people on the wiki I will not mention. :) 16:37, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Miscategorized blog posts.Edit

Pam, since you wooshed poor LT in the deletion of whatever page it was last time, I'll contact you in the hope that he may get the satisfaction of beating you in fixing this. <G>

Under the "Breaking Dawn" category (the book one) there are five blog posts, one by Bellscullen and four by Twilightsagafan, that have been improperly categorized. Can I bother you with them? Thanks! MinorStoop 17:27, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

 :-) MinorStoop 22:49, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Vandal warnings. Edit

Since these I.P.s acts are one shot only (apparently), I wonder if really it's worth warning them; I doubt they're coming back to repeat it - somehow I feel that if they do, they do it for the laugh at our expense. Perhaps yours more than mine, since you're the one issuing the warnings. And this is probably the saddest part of it all. 19:58, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

IPs *do* change; if they come back within a day or two they may be recognizable, a week or two later, perhaps not. Though, apparently, LT manages... 09:20, December 15, 2011 (UTC)


I don't know if you have seen it, but on the Gallery pages (most of them) they have a photo named "undefined" and it's on other wikis too . Do you know what's going on with them?

Bellscullen 02:04, December 15, 2011 (UTC)Bellscullen

Unless people add them and then they get deleted. . .

Bellscullen 04:35, December 15, 2011 (UTC)Bellscullen

I leave you to the madness of Edward vs. Jacob fans. Edit

Going on vacation in two days and thought I'd give you heads up. Although you do more administrative duties than I, so there was probably more of a need to leave me a note about it when you went on vacation, than when I do, lol. Anyways I will be gone a week and after that I'm having some work done on my computer that I've been putting off for quite some time -- not sure the length it will take to fix it. And to be honest, I think I need a break from this wiki. There's really nothing to do on here except keep the peace between rival teams and revert the random vandalism. Maybe I will come back with renewed energy. :P LuckyTimothy 04:30, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Bronson MistakeEdit

Bronson Pelletier somebody mess up Bronson's page. i tried to fix it but it was all mess up when i seen it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cullen's are HOT!!! (talkcontribs)

Cleanup Edit

Pam, I'm sorry to bother you, but since LuckyTimothy is vacationing, I'll have to bring it to your attention - as per a comment left on his talk page by User:TeamTaycobsessiveObnoxiousMoronicBlackNike'sGirl, there's a goodly number of comments on Jacob Black's page in need of deletion: the usual accusations of heterodox sexual orientation aimed at the titular character and at a number of IPs. Don't they get boring after a while? Best, MinorStoop 11:06, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

P.S. I almost forgot there's also the latest product of Cullen's are Hot!!!'s ingeniousness.

It's just for a week. :)
And, true, LT is good at it. Well, I'll see what I'll manage to spot; perhaps between the two of us we'll limp along without him. MinorStoop 20:29, December 18, 2011 (UTC)
Forgot the computer bit. :::slightly embarassed::: MinorStoop 04:46, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

User Emmettcullen12345 Edit

Pam, judging by his edit pattern, this guy User:Emmettcullen12345 may require a vandalism notice. MinorStoop 08:44, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! 17:27, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Nasty comment on a page Edit

Hi. I found a nasty comment on the page Alec. One comment for sure is not nice and I think should be deleted. Lilly Cullen-Talk Page- 01:13, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

TMF1108 spamming or harvesting email address?Edit

You kidding? He's been at it again - on Caius, Werewolf genocide, Breaking Dawn, Twilight: The Graphic Novel and Wuthering Heights. It may be worth entertaining the suspicion that he may be harvesting email addresses, more than spamming. MinorStoop 15:31, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Add also Quileute tribe, Jacob Black, Felix to the list. And likely more after I stop checking. He's worth blocking; we may go for the month+ block, given his activity. There's also a beeped comment on Kristen Stewart's lack of attractiveness by an anonimous contributor. Can't really disagree on KS attributes, but other A.C.s have already started to bitch about it... MinorStoop 15:37, December 20, 2011 (UTC)
There're also two older copies of the message on User talk:Team-jacob girl page. Not that at this point I'm doing anything more than nitpicking, knowing your meticolousness. :) MinorStoop 15:42, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

why do you keep deleteing my messeges just trying to let people know about my book is that so bad —Preceding unsigned comment added by TMF1108 (talkcontribs)

It may just be a repetition of CharmeRuler, but the implications of this (it's the legal ones I worry about) give me the creeps. Not so much about me or you personally, but I'd be really sad to see this wiki go over a kid's faux pas. Or am I just overreacting again? MinorStoop 17:19, December 20, 2011 (UTC)
Dammit, I've scrapped three or four versions of a message to TMF, and still have no idea on how to approach it - she (admittedly self-professedly) looks more intelligent than CR, but I am not sure how to touch the copyright and phishing issues she appears to be unaware of, without scaring her out of her wits. MinorStoop 17:51, December 20, 2011 (UTC) P.S. Ah, since I started it, I'll finish it.
Might have landed on my feet, after all. Hopefully. MinorStoop 21:34, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Looks like I didn't - I'd like to hear your opinion on where I tripped, if and when you feel like. MinorStoop 08:57, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Only thing we can do now, is wait and see - if it's just a kid not knowing what she's doing this whole thing may just prove itself as flimsy as a soap bubble. That attempt of contacting CharmeRuler could have a nastier foundation, though; as you say, hard to know. If this TMF actually uses her blog, and she churns out something that can be called fanfiction, we'll be OK, I think. I'm going to keep an eye on it anyway.
And now that I think about it in a cooler frame of mind, I guess that somebody in the staff should be better knowledgeable about the legal points than we are. MinorStoop 17:59, December 21, 2011 (UTC)
And since I always keep forgetting to do so in the main post, thanks! MinorStoop 18:01, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

A job for LTEdit

IP needs a block, for reason of the trail of comments on Bella Swan page. Me apologies, MinorStoop 19:22, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, but no thanks. :) Should I feel the irrepressible need to rollback something I could always log in as Ngebendi again. 20:26, December 21, 2011 (UTC)
Truth to tell, I'm not sure that much of what I revert actually qualifies as vandalism - homeostasis is perhaps a better word: the maintainance of a reasonably stable text and meaning of the wiki.
The only privilege I may wish for would be the deletion of unnecessary comments, which is however inestricably bound to admin rights... Speaking of which, I wish to apologize, not so much for refusing the status, but for the way I did it; it was not exactly, well, I'm not sure about the appropriate english word, so respectful will have to do. MinorStoop 20:37, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

And another job for LTEdit

This guy has a number of comments that warrant attention; ranging from the inconclusive to the obnoxious and offensive. I see you've got an apparently new tool allowing a mass deletion of comments; should you decide to delete the whole bunch of them, fine with me - even in the best case, little loss. MinorStoop 20:17, December 22, 2011 (UTC) at his snitchiest.

There's also a comment by which personally I find just overexcited and quite harmless but User:TeamTaycobSoDealWithIt seems to have been flaring over it. I'll leave this to your judgement, in the meanwile I'll drop TT a note. MinorStoop 20:23, December 22, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for dealing with 'em. 07:33, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Hypotetical 5th book in the seriesEdit

I am working on a version of the 5th book in the twighlight series. It is very near completion and I am sending out for editing now. I am sending the official to Stephenie Meyer's brother and to her publisher.

I would love if you could find any photos of who will be portraying Renata in the upcoming film. I have taken the liberty for purposes of my book to create a cast of characters (associating a photo with the name).

If you would also like to edit, I don't mind sending you a copy. However, remember, only Stephenie Meyer or her publisher can give authorization to copy or reprint. This can only be used for editing.


Mark.Markper 21:14, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Jacob Black's page. Edit

IP has left a couple of comments on JB's page which require attention.

I've been attempting to guess your time zone from your editing pattern for a while now, but, try as I might, I failed utterly. So I'll wish you a Merry Christmas a little earlier than custom dictates. :) MinorStoop 13:44, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Urgh, don't tell me you suffer of insomnia! Anyway, thanks for the intervention. :) MinorStoop 16:04, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Alaly321 Edit

This poses an interesting question - this User:Alaly321 has gotten an edit of (gender self-professed) hers reverted by Jay and has posted a series of fuming comments on her own talk page. She also has clashed a few times with Tim for the same reason and he let it go with a few paternalistic warnings. Since it's an user using her own talk page, what is the policy? MinorStoop 20:50, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. (For the insomnia, it was meant jocularly. I apologize if it was intended any other way.) MinorStoop 08:16, December 25, 2011 (UTC)

Linky commentEdit

On Tanaya Beatty's page there's a linky comment you may not be interested in. Wish I could have sent a differnt Christmas present - aren't they tiresome? MinorStoop 22:30, December 25, 2011 (UTC)

Couple of questions. Edit

Two points: in the checker dance of the "Shapeshifter" page, comments have fallen on the way. Me, I couldn't care less, but User:TeamTaycobsessiveObnoxiousMoronicBlackNike'sGirl is having fits over it. :) An account "Wikiabot" seems to have switched everything to "redirect to Quileiute werewolves". Do you think that by deleting the redirect page we'll fix the page, or should we simply wait and see? Third option, me contacting staff.

Second: CJ's recent spate of changes to the shapeshifter infobox (their basic abilities) made me notice that the vampire infobox just lists "Basic vampire skills" plus special ones, when applicable. Do we want to do the same with shapeshifters? Plus, unless my english is faulty, the term ability does not really apply - physiological traits fits a lot better, including special abilities. Knowing him, I contacted CJ and he redirected me to you. Best, MinorStoop 12:43, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

Two they may be, but cents they most certainly are not. :)
Well, since I'm no techie, I just threw in the first idea that popped up in my mind - I'll contact staff, and will clean up the shifter's box. MinorStoop 17:05, December 26, 2011 (UTC)
Got word from staff - they think they can help with the comment problem, though they plead interference from the holidays. Best, MinorStoop 18:17, December 27, 2011 (UTC)
Very welcome. MinorStoop 02:01, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

IP's comments and IP new pagesEdit

This commenter has left two messages on Renesmee's page. One seems still this side of acceptable (to me, at least), the other is definitely unsuitable for children, ladies and LuckyTimothy - whose good spirits I'm definitively missing. This last comment is also in an exchange that leaves me perplexed; I'm not clear what to make of it... Best, MinorStoop 02:10, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

In the meanwhile, has started two new pages Steve and Shelly and Makenna and Charles. I've got no real reason to mark them for deletion, but they appear to belong to the same class of shapeshifters' family members' stubs CJ got out of the guide, short, nitpicky and not worthy to stand alone. Can I bring them to your scrutiny? MinorStoop 02:24, December 28, 2011 (UTC)
I'm fairly sure that Jay has squeezed the book fairly dry of information. :) MinorStoop 07:49, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

Cleanup report Edit

The comment and dependent ones can be deleted with no loss to anyone, I should think.

MinorStoop 09:13, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Candidates for deletion Edit

It appears all of you admins need me to keep track of the candidates for deletion - there are currently five of them. The Bella Cullen Project has no history, but Twilight reviews and its siblings might be changed to a blog, depending on your judgement. Thanks! MinorStoop 23:59, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

In the fairness of the reviews, I'll concede a point, but, as you say, there's reason to think they won't get much traffic - that's why I suggested they might be moved to a blog, and contacted TT. I copy-and-pasted her reviews on the Twilight page and tried to move it into a blog, but it seems that this kind of action is admin-level. It turns out that the delete template has to double as a request for attention (at least I use it as such), since there is no template ad hoc.
Of course, this is my opinion, out of a pragmatical reasoning, more than a high-faluting principle; on your pleasure, you can move the page to a blog or revert it. Let me know, so I can update TT. MinorStoop 08:17, December 30, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. MinorStoop 16:40, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Solomon FinauEdit

Yes would like some help. I tried to edit the page Solomon Finar because it is in ERROR. In the OFFICIAL printed guide it is Solomon Finau (photo attached it is a cursive u not an r that is present) I had edited the entry once and then Charmed_Jay went in and just deleted my edit leaving the ERRONEOUS info. Please fix all links and anything associated with that post. I have attached the picture to provide proof. Thank you for your time.

Please look at the name. It is a U not an R. I tried to fix the entry but someone erased my edit. This photo is from the OFFICIAL GUIDE taken with my cell phone.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Pr2008 (talkcontribs)
So sorry for the double post but I couldn't see my original. I fixed Solomon Finau's name because in the guide (see profile picture I added) he is Finau not Finar as the Wiki originally had. Charmed-Jay deleted my edit without so much as a word or reason as to why. If he does this again I think that is unfair considering I have supplied SUFFICIENT proof that the name is indeed Finau. Please see picture in above post and on the Solomon Finau page for proof. If Charmed-Jay does this again I will just reedit it and contact you again. Thank you so much for your time and understanding. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pr2008 (talkcontribs)

Comments on Jacob Black's page to be deleted. Edit

There are a few comments to be deleted on Jacob Black's page - all posted by a User:MaxroxY556677. Almost got the feeling he's doing it just to see how far he can get away with. MinorStoop 15:00, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

New template. Edit

Just to let you know that I've created this new template, for pages I'd like to bring to an admin's attention; got tired to have to use the "Candidates for deletion" for something it was not intended to. I'm sure it can be improved (I'd imagine that perhaps another category may be needed), but that will come with ttime and experience.

The use is: {{Attention}} and makes the message "This page requires the attention of an admin." appear.

Meanwhile, Happy New Year. :) MinorStoop 13:41, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

You taught me something today - the existence of the sandbox; something just vaguely remembered and suspected. Thanks, MinorStoop 18:20, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

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