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Categories. Edit

Pam, greetings.

May I inquire about the rules that should inform the categorization of pages? In the past few days, I've been working on them, trying to streamline the categories on a number of character pages, Charmed-Jay reinserted a number of them back, now you seem to be streamlining again. It looks like there's little consensus on what to do - certainly I have not understood what the objective is, and whether I can contribute toward it or it would be wiser to leave it to somebody else. Thanks! Ngebendi 22:14, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Practically, it is a pyramid - the most specific categories at the bottom, the more general higher up until you get the most general at the top. Fine with me; I am minimalist, the fewer categories the better. Some of Jay's points still need to be answered - he likes to add to a character what book/movie s/he appears in (can agree with that) and the character's gender (in my opinion, useless in most cases), but, at least, I can argue my case with some strenth. Many thanks! Ngebendi 06:29, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Template Team change Edit

I would delete Template:Team, cause Template:Teams consits the all the funktions of Template:Team.  — Johannes Kalliauer (talk) Pic 13:19, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Useless page if I ever saw one. Edit

Pam, greetings. It looks like I'm making a habit of it - I'm bothering you again.

There's a page, " Hi its me trisha" with nonsensical content, created by a TeeTree today at 14:51. It looks like a candidate for deletion, therefore I'm reporting it to you.

I'm not sure whether it is in the autoconfirmed user's privileges to mark a page as a candidate for deletion. If it is may I inquire how one does it: I'd rather do it the regular way rather than keeping bothering you when it's the case.

Many thanks!

Ngebendi 15:16, September 1, 2010 (UTC)


Heyy i was just woundering when does the featured character change??? reily has been the featured character for like ever!!

the above message was from Twilight_7115!!

Wow. Wasn't expecting that, lol. Edit

First off, thanks a lot!! I started reading the message you left, and when I got to the delete part I thought it was going to be a warning to stop, lol!! So instead of dealing with my constant tagging of delete, you've made me an admin. I kid... In all seriousness, I really like this wiki and I will do my best to keep it as professional as I can. I'm sure I'll have questions in the future, but right now I'll start off slow. Again, really appreciate being granted administrative status. :) LuckyTimothy 04:29, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Leah Gibson Edit

Looks like copied from IMDB.

My guess is that many new sizable articles are copied from there or Wikipedia, and left as such waiting to be properly meshed with the rest of the wiki. Since I had no idea on how to proceed, thanks for pointing the way. Ngebendi 19:51, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Admin Edit

how do you become a admin? I♥CarlisleCullen 16:13, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I was wondering whether you could help me and be an administrator on my twilight wikia. I would love it iff you could ask Charmed-Jay for me as well. If you leave a comment on my talk page and olet me know, I would appreciate that.

Thanks, I♥CarlisleCullen 17:31, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Admin Edit

I would like to become a admin on this wikia and prove myself and I need turstworthy people to help me on my newly made (yesterday!) wikia. please could you consider it and get back to me?

Thanks! I♥CarlisleCullen 09:53, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Update Twilight_Saga_Wiki:Contact#Administrators Edit

LuckyTimothy is now an Administrator, so this page should be updated.

Please change it to 11 Administrators, or use

  2. {{NUMBERINGROUP:sysop}} or
  3. {{NUMINGROUP:sysop}}

that the number is always right, but then you would have the number 10 instead of the name ten.

e.g.: Change it to:

or Redirect to Twilight Saga Wiki:Administrators#Who_are_this_wiki.27s_administrators.3F
 — Johannes Kalliauer (talk) Pic 19:02, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Betas. Edit

Pam, greetings.

I thought that the "Beta" category was struck down as invalid?

There is one, mentioning Leah Clearwater, Jacob Black, and Levi Uley as members. While the first two are entitled, I find nothing on Levi's page that supports the idea, and, since the only book I've read is Breaking Dawn, I can't draw on the canon.

Could you please let me know how to react?

Many thanks! Ngebendi 18:25, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! Ngebendi 22:22, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

Recommend Edit

Pam, greetings.

May I be impudent enough to throw my weight in BlondieEllie's favor? What there is, at least. I have little idea of what it takes to make an administrator, particularly a good one, but my interactions with her have thus far been positive - I believe she'll make an useful addition to the board.

Best regards, Ngebendi 06:56, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Well, it was worth a try. Ngebendi 17:37, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Administator Edit

sorry for me keep bugging you but I was wondering if you could tell me how to mkae someone a admin because i want to make someone a admin but I cant find a link or anything to mkae them one.

please reply asap!

thanks a lot,

I♥CarlisleCullen 17:22, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Rosalie and Jasper HaleEdit

okay i thought because they had same last name it would be cool for them to have a page of their own sorry i created it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilk846 (talkcontribs)

Kiowa Gordon - LifeEdit

Hi, I've got a problem with the Kiowa Gordon page. In the contents list it says "Added by BlondieEllie life" and I can't work out how to get rid of it. Could you please try and sort it out?


BlondieEllie 19:03, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

It was the contents box showing the categories, but it's been sorted out.

BlondieEllie 20:03, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Breaking Dawn Edit

Hi Pam, imdb says that Drew Roy and another person are rumored to be playing characters in Breaking Dawn, so should we tag it as a deletion or just wait until its official?

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Deleted page and links to Wikipedia. Edit

Pam, greetings.

As a consequence of a link on Kiova Gordon's page that went to Wikipedia, yesterday evening I created a page about the Hualapai, and BlondieEllie and I have tried to fill it with little agrement and success. Now it has vanished from the wiki, along with all references to it on my contribution page. Do you happen to know whether it has been deleted, and shouldn't, however, its contribution history remain?

Still on Gordon's page, three links go directly to wikipedia: one to the Arizona article, one to Gordon's high school, one to the high school's town. Given the above for Gordon's Native American tribe, how do I behave with them?

Many thanks! Ngebendi 02:26, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Thought it was something along these lines, but had to ask. Many thanks! Ngebendi 05:30, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Edit

Thanks for the info! I'll let LuckyTimothy know - he's the shy one. :) Ngebendi 06:33, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism on Caius. Edit

Pam, greetings.

Caius behavior in the saga sure would earn him any and all vandalism one could give him, but it's always a pain having to revert it. This unregistered user with IP was at it, and while I know you can't even smack him on his fingers, I'm reporting the fact. Luckily I could also fix a spelling mistake.

At this point, I'd imagine you've gauged my ignorance of the canon, me not having read anything other than Breaking Dawn and having seen Eclipse - the abovementioned number soup has raised quite a major point. Other than the five hybrids mentioned in Breaking Dawn, are there other vampire offspring in the canon? Two have been attributed to Caius, I would think when he was still human. Quite nonsensically, in my opinion; no reason for them to appear. Best regards. Ngebendi 21:15, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Ngebendi 06:44, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

New Moon book to movie diff.] Edit

I saw that you changed New Moon book to movie differences against the common style: Twilight_Saga_Wiki:Manual_of_Style#Bold_and_italics

For more infos look: Talk:New_Moon_book_to_movie_differences

I don't know why you deleted <i></i> and <em></em>:

  1. cause you think '''' would be better, or
  2. did you think we shouldn't write it italics

I use <i></i><b></b> because I think it is easier to understand the code, cause you know when something starts and something ends. Sometimes (especially on Quote-sites) I see something like '''''', which doesn't work cause there are 6', and you don't know why someone added them: to stop the italics, or to start the bold.

Which should I use:

  1. '' '' and ''' '''
    1. which are common but are sometimes a little bit confusing
  2. <i> </i> and <b> </b>
    1. which are a good alternatives, I would like to be allowed to use them if I write a new text
  3. <em> </em> and <strong> </strong>
    1. which are sometimes a little bit long

 — Johannes Kalliauer (talk) Pic 16:54, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Bella's cottageEdit

I have inlcuded this page as a category in the Character homes page, so could you please delete the page with the same name? thanks!

BlondieEllie 18:12, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Twilight biology. Edit

Is it just me, or I am followed more or less closely and gimlet-eyedly from higher up in the site hierarchy? :)

BTW, you did well to post that warning - this kind of speculation, though not strictly applicable to fantasy and romance, are what I like best. And is still speculation.

Ngebendi 21:53, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Can't say you're wrong. Ngebendi 09:18, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Trish Egan rollback Edit

I doubt you remember, but you rolled back my edit on that page. I just wanted to let you know I wasn't running amok with superfluous categorization. I got in auto-mode in editing and skimmed the page, seeing the mention of Forks High receptionist and saw what I thought was a needed category. I didn't realize it was the actress, and not the character. I don't want you to think that I'm wrongly categorizing to get those shiny badges. 22px-SMirC-tongue.svg.png LuckyTimothy 15:47, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Paralysis Edit

Pam greetings.

According to Wordreference (my favorite online dictionary), and Merriam Webster "Paralysis" is indeed a proper noun. Haven't consulted OED as probably I should have done, but did not want to pay the fee...

Ngebendi 20:05, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Looked out the definitions for the terms, and you're right. Thanks for providing the occasion. :) Ngebendi 01:32, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Volunteering. Edit

I just noticed the info for the wiki's upgrade, and if it is not pulling wood on my eyes, I'd like to help. Within my limits, of course, the real techie is Kalliauer, but it is always worth learning something new. Is it all right to ask you, or, if not, whom should I ask? Thanks! Ngebendi 10:47, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

I would also like to help as a Volunteer.  — Johannes Kalliauer (talk) Pic 11:03, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks! Ngebendi 07:22, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Why am I the only one who adds issues to Twilight_Saga_Wiki:New_Look#Report_a_problem, did I misunderstood something?
Or should I ask Sena@fandom
 — Johannes Kalliauer (talk) Pic 17:17, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Categories organisation Edit

Can you please tell me how to organize the categories right, cause I think there is an existing order, but I don't know it.
User:Ngebendi told me that I could ask User:Charmed-Jay, cause I asked Ngebendi.
User:Charmed-Jay told me that I should try to ask you, cause I asked him.
 — Johannes Kalliauer (talk) Pic 07:03, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

website skin Edit

how come the websites skin has been changed??? i liked it better the other way!!!:) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Twilight 7115 (talkcontribs)

Categories Edit

Species Edit

I cared about Special:WantedCategories, and found that

  1. Category:By_Species
  2. Category:Species

exists, but I think we could join them.


Why are none of the Cullens (adoptive siblings) in Category:Siblings?

I thought it maybe has a reason, because the I always orient on the main characters, cause there the categories normally fits.
I created Category:Adoptive siblings.


I think it is is a little bit confusing, that 8 of 10 Administrators are in Category:Administrators. I think User:Operation Twilight and User:Bella Swan are inactive, but they should also be listed there.


"This is a page with the name of Immortal children and their creator"
― Hole content of Category:Immortal_Child

But I think, if I would add Category:Immortal_Child to the creator Sasha, it would be a little bit confusing.

I marked Category:Immortal_Child for deletion. (now a Special:UnusedCategories)

Sorry for nerving you with CategoriesEdit

"You should really ask CharmedJay - he's the one who worked the most on categories. Or to TagAlongPam - when I've tried to do more than correcting the obvious, I got scolded. Sorry."
Ngebendi 15:16, September 20, 2010 (UTC) on User_talk:JoKalliauer#Re:_Categories_organisation
"I'm not the one in charge. Try to ask User:TagAlongPam. She's the one who organizes the categories. Last time I tried to add new ones, she yelled at me. Well, not really, but you know..."
User:Charmed-Jay on User talk:Charmed-Jay/@comment-JoKalliauer/@comment-Charmed-Jay

I thought it would be more intelligent to ask you, before changing something (Pointless edits).

You shouldn't resent the fact that people say you "scolded" or "yelled" at them, cause I think they didn't mean it like they said, they just wanted to explain me, why it is better to ask someone else, without sounding lazy, because they don't know exactly how to organize Categories right.
Sorry for using the word yelled myself (deleted it now with this change), I didn't want to criticize you but I think I am a newbie, who doesn't know everything.
Now I think I know what you meant with you need experience for an Adminship:
It's not important how many awards you collected or how many edits you made, I think it is more important that you know what is right and what doesn't fit to the default style.
Johannes Kalliauer Pic

New Look Edit

Hello Pam, I'm sorry for bothering you when I'm sure you're very busy but I'm a little puzzled and upset by the New Look. The old version of the wiki looked better and was much easier to use, wheras the new one is complicated to use and has several small but irritating problems which I have posted on Jo Kalliauer's talk page. These include:

– The person who uploaded an image's name is shown underneath the image. It looks bad and frankly, who cares?

– My "awards" are all seperated, not in a "block" or grouped like they used to be. Can you please rectify this promptly?

– I was not forewarned about the "New Look" and think that the old version of the website looked better and was easier to use.

– There's a "give feedback" icon at the top left-hand corner of my screen that won't go away despite me having given feedback and attempted to get rid of it.

– My "signature" doesn't link to my talk page.

– There's no "My home" page anymore, making it impossible to know if the pages I'm following or have created have been modified or not since I last edited them. This is the most annoying.

Please could you try and sort these problems out or revert to the old page? As you're the "chief" administrator I thought it best to speak directly to you, as the New Look is making my life very hard and I'm finding editing and contributing to the wiki more difficult. I truly don't mean to complain or be unpleasant, I'm just a little upset and annoyed. Thank you very much, and I hope we can get everything sorted out. =)

Kindest regards,

BlondieEllie 20:08, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Eclipse book to movie differences introduction bold Edit

I don't know how often you changed the introduction to be half bolded;
but I think it looks weird (as TLE already said), also I didn't change it;
cause it doesn't make sense, to bold the entire first sentence (as you said)

So I think:
The following are noted differences between the original Eclipse novel and the movie.
would be the best
JoKalliauer Pic 07:59, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Category:Candidates_for_deletion Edit

I added {{delete}} to some pages, LuckyTimothy already deleted many, but I think you should delete File:Thumb-Brady.png soon, cause it is used on many pages: {{Quileute Packs}}

  • Jacob Black
  • Sam Uley
  • Leah Clearwater
  • Seth Clearwater
  • Jared
  • Embry Call
  • Paul
  • Quil Ateara
  • Collin
  • Brady
  • Quileute tribe
  • User:Charmed-Jay

It was my mistake:

Then {{Quileute Packs}} didn't work any longer:
There stood the text File:Thumb-Brady.png instead of a picture.

Johannes Kalliauer Pic 17:51, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Slider Edit

Hi. I chose you because you're the top most admin on the Contact page. I'm the lead admin over at Redwall. Please tell me about your main page slider - how it works, how you got it, etc. -- LordTBT Talk! 20:48, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

So is my inquiry intentionally being ignored here?
-- LordTBT Talk! 04:35, September 28, 2010 (UTC) on User_talk:LordTBT#Re_User_talk:TagAlongPam.23Slider
I already answered User:LordTBT on LordTBT's Talkpage, that I said User:LordTBT should ask an expert.
I thought I tell you, cause you won't watch/follow all talkpages.
 — Johannes Kalliauer (talk) Pic 08:53, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Out of curiosity... Edit

Pam, greetings.

All these recent requests for adminship made me sufficiently curious to ask you what would be your answer if I were to ask for it myself. Since reading the books is likely a requirement I will not fulfill, and the new wiki layout volunteering has been a blunder, I doubt very much I will step up, but, well, there's a soft spot in everybody.

As usual, apologies for bothering you. Ngebendi 23:33, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Truth to tell, I'm not sure; or, perhaps, my ego would like to write a check my body won't cash. The only thing I'm actually good at is copyediting (you can do it by checking the content of a page against the rest of the wiki), the only right I might find useful is that of deleting pages (which I do not really need anyway - tagging a page I don't like is likely enough); I have got no judgement for pictures, and I have followed comments just when they have been flung at me. And blogs are complete strangers. Plus, I've got the feeling that there are already enough admin on the list, though I may be wrong.

I guess we'll have to see how it shakes out. Ngebendi 07:14, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Pack shielding. Edit

Thanks for answering. :) Will see what some application of skull sweat will bring out. Ngebendi 21:26, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Shield and Mental Shield. Edit

Pam, greetings.

I was thinking that the articles "Shield" and "Mental Shield" could be merged in one, probably adding the "Shield" content in "Mental Shield", since the first is smaller than the second, and then deleting "Shield". With your permission, I might do it and tag "Shield" for deletion when I'm done. What do you think?

Best regards, Ngebendi 07:44, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

A Chinese would probably answer: "I hear and obey!" :) Ngebendi 07:56, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Well, Pam, a first tentative version of merged shields is up and posted, and I marked both Protective Shield and Mental Shield as candidates for deletion. If you feel to give me some feedback let me have it before confirming deletion, so I can still call on their content, otherwise, I guess it is up to the other editors. Ngebendi 15:14, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Ngebendi 14:27, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

  1. Mental shield
    1. Why does a Redirection need a Category Category:Special_Abilities?
    2. I would prefer a Redirection to Shield#Mental_shields.
    3. This Redirection has full-protection, (I don't see why), so I can't change it.
  2. Protective Shield
    1. Why does a Redirection need a Category [[Category:Special_Abilities]]?
    2. I would prefer a Redirection to Shield#Protective_shields.
    3. I can't change "Mental shield", so I think it makes no scene to just change one.
  3. Shield
    1. move to "Shields"

 — Johannes Kalliauer (talk) Pic 07:48, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Moved to Shields. Ngebendi 14:27, October 1, 2010 (UTC)


I don't exactly know how to use Defaultsort(The english google translation of the German Wiki).

I made some suggestions to add Defautsort

    [+] Cullen Witnesses (5)→Keep
    [+] Ephraim Black's pack→DEFAULTSORT:Pack, Black, Ephraim
    [+] Jacob Black's Pack→DEFAULTSORT:Pack, Black, Jacob
    [+] Newborns (1)→Keep (or DEFAULTSORT:Vampires, Newborns)
    [+] Nomads (1)→Keep (or DEFAULTSORT:Vampires, Nomads)
    [+] Sam Uley's Pack→DEFAULTSORT:Pack, Uley, Sam
    [+] Vegetarian vampires (2)→DEFAULTSORT:Vampires, Vegetarian
    Cold Man→Keep
    Cold Woman→Keep
    Deceased vampires→DEFAULTSORT:Vampires, Deceased
    Ephraim Black's Pack→DEFAULTSORT:Pack, Black, Ephraim
    The Great Wolf→DEFAULTSORT:Wolf, Great #The
    Immortal children→Keep
    Jacob Black's Pack→DEFAULTSORT:Pack, Black, Jacob
    Known vampires→DEFAULTSORT:Vampires, Known
    La tua cantante→keep
    Newborn→Keep (or DEFAULTSORT:Vampires, Newborns)
    Nomad→Keep (or DEFAULTSORT:Vampires, Nomads)
    Quileute tribe→keep
    Sam Uley's Pack→DEFAULTSORT:Pack, Uley, Sam
    Vampire Index→keep
    Vampire insults→keep
    Werewolf insults→keep
    Werewolves vs. Vampires→keep

 — Johannes Kalliauer (talk) Pic 13:35, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

REEdit probably shouldn't use "Blacks" or "Uleys"...
I think the same, but in the German Wikipedia, but it is written different in the Help.
I wasn't able to find a good English Wikipedia help for Defaultsort, so I translate a part of German Wiki to English.

Regel Seite Syntax Bemerkung
4 Grandma’s Marathon {{SORTIERUNG:Grandmas Marathon}} Durch Apostroph getrennte Zeichen werden verbunden.

The High German/standard German would be "Großmutter's Marathon", instead of "Grandma’s Marathon".

rule page syntax comment
4 Grandma’s Marathon {{DEFAULTSORT:Grandmas Marathon}} Characters, which are disconnected cause of and apostrophe become connected.
This message uses Creative Commons Licensed content from Wikipedia (view authors). Smallwikipedialogo.png

I will change it to:
Ephraim Black's pack→DEFAULTSORT:Pack, Black, Ephraim
Jacob Black's Pack→DEFAULTSORT:Pack, Black, Jacob
Sam Uley's Pack→DEFAULTSORT:Pack, Uley, Sam
 — Johannes Kalliauer (talk) Pic 07:40, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

I didn't change The Great Wolf to {{DEFAULTSORT:Wolf, Great #The}}, cause helper User:Game_widow added {{DEFAULTSORT:Great Wolf}}, cause I think a wikia helper has more exprience, than I have.

 — Johannes Kalliauer (talk) Pic 12:07, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Category movingEdit

Is it intelligent to create a new category, change all Pages the new category, and delete/redirect the old one, or is it more intelligent to move a category with a bot?
 — Johannes Kalliauer (talk) Pic 13:35, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry deleted your Talkpage Edit

I don't know how that happened that I unintentional deleted your Talkpage, cause I think I used the "+"/"Leave a message" button, but maybe cause my browser crashed down while editing.
I didn't noticed it before, so I did my edit after an hour undo.
Sorry User:JoKalliauer (talk) 14:45, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

{{Achievement}} Edit

I want to change the unprotected {{Achievement}} Template, I tried it with: {{Sandbox}}

How it worked with {{Sandbox}} Edit

Twilight apple 75x75Twilight 1flower 75x75Twilight redribbon 75x75Twilight chess 75x75-1
Twilight completedsaga cullen 300x75-1

For more infos please look: Template talk:Achievement

I already did a little change on Template:Achievement, but with this new change the templates don't display the text any longer, which was displayed in the old skin if you moved over the picture.

LuckyTimothy meant that I should ask you.
Or should I ask Helper Kmanwing signature, who was in charge of the Achievement Awards.
 If someone wouldn't like the change, someone just have to click undo.

 — Johannes Kalliauer (talk) Pic 21:15, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

I changed {{Achievement}} - User:JoKalliauer

Special powers: Olympic Coven Edit

On 19. Jul. 2010 User:Charmed-Jay changed some special abilities: (stroked marked)

Member Power
Carlisle Cullen Compassion
Esme Cullen Loving Passionately
Emmett Cullen Extreme Strength
Alice Cullen Clairvoyance (Vision)
Edward Cullen Telepathy (Mind Reading)
Bella Swan Mental shield
Rosalie Hale Incredible beauty
Jasper Hale Empathy and Inflicting Emotions on Others
Renesmee Cullen Tactile thought-sharing
Mental shield penetration

On 19. Sep. 2010 User:Lilk846 added some special abilities: (Underline marked)

Member Special Ability
Carlisle Cullen self-control
Esme Cullen
Emmett Cullen super-strength
Alice Cullen Clairvoyance
Edward Cullen Telepathy / Mind Reading
Isabella Swan Mental shield
Rosalie Hale Beauty
Jasper Hale Empathy / Control Emotions
Renesmee Cullen Tactile thought-sharing
Mental shield penetration

I didn't do User:Lilk846 undid, like Administrator:Charmed-Jay, cause the powers are also added on Carlisle Cullen, Emmett Cullen and Rosalie Hale in the infobox under "Abilities".

But now User:Dr.mitchell1 and User: made a discussion in the comments of Olympic_Coven#WikiaArticleComments:

Rosalie Lillian Hale's power is beauty. what a load of crap.
— User:Dr.mitchell1 on
— User: on

I don't want to change something against an Admin's decision, cause User:Charmed-Jay nearly never makes mistakes , but I think User:Lilk846 is right.

 — Johannes Kalliauer (talk) Pic 09:37, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Objection! I did NOT add those things! Someone else did! The wikia does that sometimes.

--Charmed-Jay 15:21, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

warn User:Bruisercruiser81? Edit

I think User:Bruisercruiser81 should get warned by an Admin, cause User:Bruisercruiser81 uploaded new picutre-versions, without looking where the old pic was used:

Other Overwritten Pictures by Special:Contributions/Bruisercruiser81

I don't change them, cause they fit now to those Pages, on which they are used, but maybe just because someone deleted the usage, because the picture didn't fit anymore.

 — Johannes Kalliauer (talk) Pic 11:05, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Template:Olympic_Coven Edit

I think Template:Olympic_Coven maybe needs a semi-protection, or maybe we just have to remove the edit button in the Template.
If someone really want's to improve the template, and is able to change it himself/herself, than he will find the Template also, so I can't see any sense that there is an edit-button.


Suggestions to do:

  • I would Semi-protect (Full-protect?) it, cause I think everyone who has enough experience to change the template useful/wise, has at least an account.
  • I would think we should remove the edit button, cause everyone who has the experience to know what to change, find the Template without editbutton.

Maybe we should put Edward and Bella together like User: suggested it, but I made it undo, cause before changing something, someone with more experience should decide it.

 — Johannes Kalliauer (talk) Pic 20:02, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

help Edit

Pam i know about twilight very much you can ask me an qusetion and i know it,may i please be your isistant or an admin please twilight is everything to me,i talk about vampires all the time,im evening writing a book about it called Drink of Death.Joseph253 07:07, October 4, 2010 (UTC)joseph253

So how may i be a admin —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joseph253 (talkcontribs)

Oftener/more often. Edit

Pam, greetings.

It's a minor point, but it looks like I'm missing the distinction - may I ask for it before it's too late? Particularly because I have the vaguest memory this particular gambit happened before. :)

Many thanks! Ngebendi 14:35, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

For me, it is the other way around - "oftener" is the correct form, while "more often" being at least odd, if not wrong. But then, bisyllabic words are wedged in between monosyllabic and plurisyllabic ones and I guess they may behave both ways. Very well, I'll see to it I remember and use the officially sanctioned form.

As usual, Pam, many thanks! Ngebendi 22:06, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

It's just a minor point, Pam - it just seemed to me that "oftener" got corrected two or three times, and I wondered whether there was something substantial behind it. Ngebendi 06:32, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism. Edit

Pam, greetings.

Looks like I've got to call on your blocking privileges again - I've been hit on my talk page, under the "Deleted page and links to Wikipedia." heading. Somebody commented that your answer was written by a "fucking moron", which I know for a fact you aren't. Did not sign, of course, and the editing history reports an IP address, with a history of comments reasonably politely-languaged.

If you don't mind, I'll leave the page as it is for your vision, so that you can decide whether you want to block the IP, and then I'll delete the comment.

Best regards, Ngebendi 15:16, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

P.S. This is probably the case I'd like blocking privileges for, without having to go the whole nine yards. But then, I'm also afraid of unnecessarily blocking a page or, worse, an user over a petty disagreement.

Thanks! Ngebendi 06:11, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

I'm A Newbie Edit

I accidentally created my account with my Facebook name (because I was creating an account through Facebook). I was wondering how I could change my username... And if not that, I was wondering how I could delete this account so I can create an account with my desired username. If you wish to reply, I don't really care how. You could reply by talking or emailing, doesn't matter.

Thanks for your time and I look forward to doing more things on this website! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drina Queenie (talkcontribs)

Thank you Edit

I think, however, that I might just keep this one. But thank you for your reply and I hope to keep in tough some time. I'm really starting to learn the ropes of this website, so yeah. I made the same mistake of deleting my account on account of email for Youtube. I don't think I'll do it with this one. But, seriously, thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drina Queenie (talkcontribs)

User Starlit487. Edit

Pam, greetings.

This Starlit487 has been at it at least three or four times, always adding Momma to Bella Swan's infobox and Daddy to Edward Cullen's one, just to see them deleted a little later. I've even posted my reasoning on her/his talk page, asking (hopefully politely enough) for his counterargument, but nothing doing. I start to think (s)he's doing it just for the heck of it; maybe a couple of days blocking may be useful. Ngebendi 15:18, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

"Ideas". Edit


no offense was meant - your curtness sometimes can sting. :)

Ngebendi 18:06, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Didin't say you were wrong. :) Ngebendi 06:25, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Curtness. Edit


I think I know why you appear curt - just check the messages we left on Starlit's page. Yours is about a third as long as mine, and a lot simpler and more concise. So it looks like that curt was inappropriate... Ngebendi 07:17, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

As long as you don't bust a vein in trying. :) You are right - there are two screens, two computers and one internet between us, making it difficult knowing each other. And conciseness is perhaps the best feature of english; unfortunately, however hard I may try, my writing is still shaped by my mothertongue. Ngebendi 17:14, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

vampire users. Edit

Pam, greetings.

It looks like one can't escape one's destiny. Part out of courtesy (I did not want to burden you overmuch with my requests for help) and part to build a closer relationship with the rest of the admins, I shifted to LuckyTimothy, but you've beaten us to the punch - should you be pitted against a vampire, poor vampire! :) Thanks for the two vampire users. Ngebendi 01:13, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

You've rendered me useless!! Thanks for the birthday wishes. :) LuckyTimothy 03:00, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Again - commenting links. Edit


another comment with links to pornographic sites on Renesmee's article, again by an unregistered contributor. At the time of this writing it is the topmost and most recent comment. Could you delete it, if you don't mind? Thanks! Ngebendi 06:25, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism. Edit


again some vandalism, this time on KayleaLovesRobertPattinson's user page. The usual number soup: 194.72.501.163. I felt free to revert it, since the user has been inactive for a year or so, and could you please block the IP address? Thanks! Ngebendi 11:16, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

I wish I knew - I just noticed that there was another instance of the pornographic link comment and I reported it. That's all I know, I'm sorry. Ngebendi 14:33, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

"Whatever installment cast" and "Actors" categories Edit


a brief exchange between LuckyTimothy and me prompted me to wonder. In many (perhaps most or all) actors' pages there are both a "Whatever installment cast" and an "Actors" category. My opinion is that the last is implied in the first, and could therefore be taken out, but since this would raise at least CharmedJay's objections, I would like to hear at least your opinion and LuckyTimothy's before starting editing.

In the meanwhile, I noticed that in the "Actors" category page, some people are organized alphabetically by surname, others by personal name. I would reorganize them all by last name, but I have no idea how - can you let me know, or, if not, refer me to somebody who knows? Thanks! Ngebendi 15:56, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

As always, many thanks! Ngebendi 18:48, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism, vandalism, hated vandalism. Edit

Pam, feel free to call me a pain in your chair, but I'm reporting some more vandalism. Usual number soup ( and, of course. The first deleted the Edward Cullen section in the Charlie Swan page, the second IP the same again once and the Philip Dwyer section in the Renée Dwyer page twice. Already restored, but could you block those addresses? It's like putting one's finger in the hole of the proverbial dam, but...

Thanks! Ngebendi 20:58, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

Since the help pages state that sometimes IP addresses change between visits of the same user, I thought it was repeat. But you're right, let's wait and see. Ngebendi 06:59, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Image search Edit

Does such a thing exist on the Wiki? With 10K+ images it's way too time consuming to simply look through pages and pages of them for an image. I know on a few occasions I've wanted to put in a picture on an article, but I can't find the image I'm looking for -- I know they exist I just don't know the file name. LuckyTimothy 02:49, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

You know, I'm guilty of not categorizing my pictures too. I'll have to rectify that. I'll volunteer to go through the images and do some categorization at some point. LuckyTimothy 03:50, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
Lol, I see you fixed my recent image categorization. I realized I wasn't doing it right after seeing your new category film crew images. I think I got the hang of it now. LuckyTimothy 04:57, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Hahaha.... simultaneous edits to each other's talk page. No, by all means fix what is needed. I'm still learning how to categorize properly. LuckyTimothy 05:00, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

It has/It's Edit


I notice you corrected this point on Quil Ateara Jr.'s page, which I didn't pay that much attention to. It is not that deadly important, in my opinion, but perhaps I should tighten a bit my grip on this kind of details; I've become sloppier with them than I used to (or, perhaps, I'm just noticing more). It is "It is", "It has" and such, instead of "It's" by default, unless it is in a quotation? (English is still not my mothertongue!)

Ngebendi 15:24, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! :) Ngebendi 17:36, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Re: shapeshifters Edit

Editing; must have been a temporary bug, this morning - now I apparently can.

As per the important business, shapeshifters. Though I don't hold your baldness analogy as entirely valid, I think I get what you mean; shapeshifting is one more character of human variability, and those who actually show it get the name. Glad it came into the open. The confusion issue, of course, is obvious. No wonder that Jay and I are sometimes locking antlers...

Well, thanks and best, Ngebendi 16:50, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

Chamaleontic link comment. Edit


this pornographic link comment on Renesmee's page is chamaleontic - posted by a at 1:15, disappeared then got posted again by a at 2:54. Wonder what we can do.

As for Mike Newton, I think it has always been reported through Edward Cullen's eyes, with him commenting "inappropriate"; in my opinion, this makes "attentions" better fitting than "affections". Newton is a today's 17 years old boy, with a, hopefully, healthy hormonal balance, instead of a century-old vampire, with whatever chemistry he's got. But perhaps I'm wrong. Ngebendi 03:32, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! It's just that to me attentions (plural, but it's unimportant) has a more sexual connotation than affections, and, by the wiki's content, applied better to the context. --Ngebendi 06:14, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

Third wife inprinted. Edit


BlondieEllie and I entered in a small disagreement, which I would appreciate if you could arbitrate. Nothing serious, given the excellent relationship we enjoy, but the more reason to solve it. About a month ago, she edited the Third Wife article to the effect she was inprinted on by Taha Aki and you reverted it. Today, following your example, I reverted another edit of hers to the same effect. Ellie quotes a passage from Eclipse (it's on my talkpage - heading Object of inprinting) which may imply she did got imprinted on, but that to me feels more like fallen in love with. Quite hard, I might add. Who's right? I'll reinstate her edits myself, if necessary.

Best, Ngebendi 19:43, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks again!. Ngebendi 06:14, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

Usual linky comment Edit


do I have to go through it all again? IP:, comment posted at 8:20, October 23rd.

Ngebendi 13:12, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

The irony I put in the question above was very loud in my head, but did not go through the talkpage... :) It's no problem to report these things; the recent wikia activity page shows also the comments. Thanks for letting me know about the right page to report to. Ngebendi 16:58, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

Unphased shapeshifters again. Edit


this attribution of the shapeshifter title is still toothaching me. I was wondering if it's worth putting up a paragraph in the shapeshifter article explaining why the unphased ones (the parents of the currently phased ones, essentially) don't rate the title, though they have the potential? Without the risk of having it struck down, that is.

Thanks! Ngebendi 12:42, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I went on and added a sentence to "Description" in the article anyway. Hope it will not be deleted. Ngebendi 15:17, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

if TWILIGHT wasn't released in books or in movies how do you find your life be?? Edit

> I'd probably spend a lot less time editing things on the internet...

(gulp) I thought you were a solid, square-headed woman one could count on... And then I discover you're a Twilighter as anybody else.

But then, who am I to talk? I've found this wiki's language in a sorry state, to say the least, and couldn't resist picking it up!

Ngebendi 19:13, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

This was meant as a joke. :) I use so few emoticons that I actually don't use them when they are needed. My apologies. Ngebendi 05:37, October 27, 2010 (UTC)

I felt better, until I noticed you corrected my upteenth sloppy edit. :::grumbling from the grave::: Ngebendi 14:46, October 27, 2010 (UTC)

To think I was the one who licked the language of this wiki... :::phasing into a fox, hiding under the table, wagging the tail and hiding the muzzle under the front paws::: Ngebendi 12:14, October 28, 2010 (UTC)

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