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Black family pageEdit

Sorry to bother you - the Black family page needs a bit of a workover Charmed-Jay's has been at it with his copy and paste technique. MinorStoop 22:03, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

Ateara familyEdit

It's just that the verb tense (is/was) changes with no reason I can see - "still are" is a tad uninformative. MinorStoop 00:07, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

Well, my idea is that you refer to (likely to be) living people in the present and to (likely to be) dead ones in the past tense - guess I have it wrong. However, why should Quil Ateara I be referred to in the past, when noone can be the former father of someone else, when Ohle Akiha is referred to in the present, when he's supposedly an older ancestor of the Atearas?
MinorStoop 08:34, December 6, 2012 (UTC)
The relationship does not change, no - just the eldest that is no longer around. "My grandfather lived in the first half of last century." if this example shows what I mean. MinorStoop 13:41, December 6, 2012 (UTC)
OK, I'll give the pages another checkover. :) MinorStoop 18:32, December 6, 2012 (UTC)


Does the mediawiki collection The Vampires of Twilight mean anything? It's an old, partial list, superseded by the category tree as it is now - I'd suggest to remove it. MinorStoop 18:03, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. MinorStoop 08:17, December 8, 2012 (UTC)


Hope you don't get upset if I do it for you. MinorStoop 08:19, December 8, 2012 (UTC)


Korshandbags needs a block, if you don't mind. MinorStoop 11:42, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

Family pagesEdit

Is Paul Lahote not included in the Quileute genealogies due to his uncertain status, pretty much like Kevin Littlesea with too little information to fit in somewhere?

Since Sue Clearwater is née Uley, shouldn't she be moved to the Uley genealogy - leaving her children in the Clearwater family?

I'd say yes and no, but I wanted to check. MinorStoop 15:53, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

Well, actually Paul Lahote's genealogy is just short on details, but not uncertain - a Gene Lahote is identified as his grandrather. Didn't notice the entry.
I accepted your suggestion about Sue, so that's done. Thanks! MinorStoop 06:31, December 12, 2012 (UTC)

Another blockEdit

CaiusV2056 may be in need of blocking - a bit more than three days, perhaps. MinorStoop 20:16, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

There _was_ a reason why I did not want to become an admin! Thanks. MinorStoop 06:32, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
Correction, he's been uploading those pictures for use in a couple of pages of his own - a "Ralph Geolomin" (a copy of which he created yesterday) and, now, an "Advanced mindpower". I tagged everything for deletion; refer to the deletion log, should CJ beat you on the punch. Since I remember Caius for a few wild edits especially on his namesake's page, I formally propose a block. I know you'll use your own judgement (correctly), but I propose a couple of weeks anyway. MinorStoop 07:42, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
I keep forgetting that admins can move pages to blogs - if TT does not beat you to it, please move Caius' last two pages to blogs. I'm canceling the block request. MinorStoop 20:51, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. I'm not completely sure what I'm going to write him, but I'll leave him an explanation. MinorStoop 07:42, December 13, 2012 (UTC)


So I was wondering if you've seen Breaking Dawn - Part 2 yet, and if so, what did you think? Sorry this is so random, I was just thinking of The Office and was like, "...Oh my God. Pam. I think she saw the movie." :p TeamTaycob 14:21, December 12, 2012 (UTC)

Oh my goodness, you have to see it. It was actually pretty good, in my opinion, and not just because it's a Twilight movie. It was sooo good. If you took away my obvious preference to New Moon above everything else, it would be my favorite movie. Bill ended the series the right way. It was so stunning visually. Like... like... food for your eyes. :o It was weirdly paced, but it just gets better and better every time I see it. I think you're going to like it a lot. TeamTaycob 03:27, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
It slayed my existence. I can't wait for you to see it. And thanks. I was kinda confused about the entire thing. Story of my life... TeamTaycob 04:30, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
It's no more surprising than a frequent contributor who failed to read two books of the series and part of a third. But I'll add my recommendation to TT's - I thought it was the best movie of the Saga. MinorStoop 07:42, December 13, 2012 (UTC)

Didiyme as a book-only character. Edit

You'll have noticed that CJ and I have a bit of disagreement over whether Didyme should be considered a book-only character. She's a mentioned character and I failed to notice anything on her page indicating she appeared in one of the movies. Since there are a few other mentioned characters Jay also labeled as book only, I wonder how to react. MinorStoop 08:34, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

Come to think about it, while "Film-only character" may have some justification, does "Book-only character" have any meaning, so to keep it or remove it? Thanks. MinorStoop 09:12, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

Problem solved. MinorStoop 16:12, December 16, 2012 (UTC)
OK, removed the link from pages, it only remains to kill the category, whichever admin comes first.
How about the relationship link in the following message? Thanks. MinorStoop 03:06, December 17, 2012 (UTC)


Do we keep the Relationships page? I remember an edit of yours stating not to use this template to link to it because it has little or no relation to the actual content of the "Relationship" paragraph on pages, so, do we keep the template in pages or do we remove it altogether? MinorStoop 16:12, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

Done. Thanks. MinorStoop 10:26, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

Fanon and deletion candidatesEdit

In the past few weeks there have been more fanon pages created than in the couple of years before - I wonder if we should start moving them to blogs and wait for the idea to catch on. It's probably wiser to roll with the flow (or whatever the saying is), since I get tireder in issuing unheeded warnings than it is worth and asking you and TT for blocks.

Since there is this Penny Launte page among the Candidates for deletion (if CJ hasn't already deleted it), I wonder if you could also deal with an unused picture of wolf-Brady, and a couple of top ten lists.

Thanks, MinorStoop 22:26, December 21, 2012 (UTC)


If you don't mind, please full-block the creation of three pages: Ralph Geolomin (deleted), Ralph, and Advanced mindpower (to be deleted, if someone hasn't already done so). They've been repeatedly created by an user under the names of CaiusV2056 and RalphGV, multiple warnings notwithstanding.

I've been thinking about it for a while, and I probably should request adminship on a more permanent basis - if you feel like awarding it. I'm doing most of the maintenance anyway, and unauthorized pages and such are becoming more and more relevant. MinorStoop 16:51, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. And Happy New Year, since it's less than 2 hours from now, here. MinorStoop 21:06, December 31, 2012 (UTC)


First: I tried to move that "Werewolf Hybrid" page by Coonmd to a blog of her/his. It did not appear in his blog index, so I deleted the page to solve the resulting mess. Is there something I should know about moving pages to blogs?

Second: I'd expect that attempts to add fanon to the wiki will only increase. What do we do? One possibility is to redirect any attempter to the fanon wiki, another to move everything to blogs. It does not look to me that nastily banning all fanon here will work.

Thanks, MinorStoop 14:24, January 1, 2013 (UTC)

OK. I'll remember. :) MinorStoop 21:36, January 1, 2013 (UTC)
Managed to do it, finally. Thanks! MinorStoop 22:04, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

RalphGV's block Edit

I've blocked User RalphGV for a year on account of his uploading a number of videos, many of them bootlegged and/or blocked/removed from Youtube on grounds of copyright infringement - you can check them out on my deletion log. I've left unblocked, this guy's other account, CaiusV2056.

Remembering Cullen's Are Hot story, I'll ask for your opinion. MinorStoop 08:13, January 8, 2013 (UTC)

Actually, I haven't. Partly because I gave him a number of warnings about other things before. However, I left an explanation for the block on his talk page. MinorStoop 12:30, January 8, 2013 (UTC)
Done - his block is now a week long. Hope I'll learn to do this kind of things before I cause excessive harm to someone. MinorStoop 06:43, January 9, 2013 (UTC)


This is to let you know I'm away for two weeks starting next Friday. Hope to find the wiki in good health when I'm back. :) MinorStoop 19:39, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

Admin dashboardEdit

Oh wow, I'm dumb for that one. Thanks. TeamTaycob 00:50, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

Wikia AlliancesEdit

Hello TagAlongPam!

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There are actually three alliances to choose from: Fantasy, Sci-Fi, and Heroes! All are broadly defined, so your wiki may fit. Check out the Alliance Page for more details and fill out the Choose Your Alliance Page to sign up!

Best, Jorge @fandom(profile)•(talk) 00:46, January 30, 2013 (UTC)


Was wondering - do we really need the non-Forks locations on the wiki? Except Denali (which is near enough to Forks) and, perhaps, Volterra/Montepulciano (as a seat for the Volturi) they're not that relevant; Biloxi is way in Alice's past, Renée is quite minor a character, and so on. It would make more sense to replace them with links to wikipedia. MinorStoop 19:26, February 10, 2013 (UTC)


CJ has his back covered on extras - they appear credited on IMDB at least. Joe did not. I think that if/when there are enough of them we can merge them in one page, Quileute genealogies-like. MinorStoop 05:57, February 15, 2013 (UTC)

On a second thought, should we merge all the minor actors anyway? MinorStoop 08:13, February 15, 2013 (UTC)
OK, I'll go for it. Have no idea how multiple infoboxes will be rendered on pages, so I don't think I'll keep them. MinorStoop 12:34, February 15, 2013 (UTC)

When finished slogging through extras, we'll have also to dispose of crew, since they too are mostly stubs. Meanwhile, I'm unsure about José Zúñiga: comedic as Mr. Molina is, he may have enough screen time to warrant his own page; and Byron Chief-Moon, playing Taha Aki, who likely has not. Any suggestion? Thanks! MinorStoop 06:16, February 16, 2013 (UTC) P.S. Let's also add Swo-wo Gabriel to this - his page is no stub, but his screen time is few seconds...

Zuniga and a few others probably need a page of their own - Jay was already leaning on this direction. I'll likely follow. MinorStoop 10:01, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

Well, somewhat arbitrarily I've decided to follow Jay's lead for the actors whose characters were involved into the Renesmee crisis. Likely a number of people present in the minor actors list can be moved to their own page, but somebody else can either do it or ask me to. MinorStoop 14:57, February 20, 2013 (UTC)


Hi, i'm a huge Twi-Hard and i was wonderinf if i could become an admin?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by CarrieDiaries101 (talkcontribs)

Achievement Awards pageEdit

Since these awards are obsolete, do we keep the page? MinorStoop 14:56, March 5, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. MinorStoop 04:31, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

Admin rightsEdit

So please if you must please can you make me a an admin on here and you can mentor me if you want, I am a chat moderator, I will try my hardest to be the best admin I can, you can mentor me like I said above. So please, I have smartened up on here, I really want it. Please Please Please!!!! I admit in the past, I was NOT a good user, but I have changed a lot since then. Please!!!!

All you need is a little Twilight
Ok, but you will notify me when there is an opening for an admin on here and I could be someones apprentice if there was an opening. Thanks for the feedback Pam, and do you know how to get to the chat thing on here?
All you need is a little Twilight


Should have told you, but didn't get around to do it - I disabled the chat feature for non use a while ago for non-use, then I reenabled this morning when Vampire-etc. requested it. MinorStoop 21:36, March 6, 2013 (UTC)


Enjoy yourself - I expect the wiki to be still around when you're back. :) MinorStoop 01:20, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

User ProblemEdit

I have a little problem with the user Symph risley, because he added picuters on the Gallery:Bella Swan, Edward Cullen, and Jacob Black which don't belong to them. Aswell the user added different pictures on the page Kristen Stewart. MrsLunchBox (talk) 12:32, March 16, 2013 (UTC)

Achievement AwardsEdit

Is there a way to get the achievement awards. MrsLunchBox (talk) 11:09, March 20, 2013 (UTC)

Power InfoboxEdit

Hey, I wanted to know can you "un-delete" the power infobox? I fixed it up... but due to it being deleted previously MinorStoop had to delete it.


ChrysieSig(twilight)16:19, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

Should have brought it up myself, but, truth to tell, I deleted the power infobox because I didn't see any reason for it to exist - then I saw you deleted an earlier version for it. Since I'm curious to hear your opinion too, I referred Chrys to you. MinorStoop 17:20, March 25, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, it's just, I don't like how the pictures stand in for how the power looks, and I think the template has value. Please give it a chance guys.
ChrysieSig(twilight)17:23, March 25, 2013 (UTC)
THANKS SO MUCH PAM!! But Stoop, you'll have to redo every single edit before I start adding them to the pages!
ChrysieSig(twilight)01:58, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
Fine with me. :) MinorStoop 03:51, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

References Edit

Hi. I'm new here, so I'm not sure about references; I could add them if you want, but I don't want to disrupt the flow of the wiki, or do anything the community disagrees with. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 21:35, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

Over on the Harry Potter Wiki where I spend most of my time editing, we need to reference each fact with the book and the chapter it appears in. I wasn't sure whether that was done here, as I hadn't seen any. Thanks :) --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 11:37, March 27, 2013 (UTC)


I asked Charmed-Jay would you admins mind if I fixed the Character infobox, so that it can have both gifs and pictures? I think it would give this wikia a cool twist. And can you please conside changing the background? And I can fix the templates to blend with the background?

ChrysieSig(twilight)18:09, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

Minor Stoop and Charmed-Jay think the infoboxes I made were over-the-top, do you think so too? I just wanted to add some jazz to the Wiki since the movies and books ended.
ChrysieSig(twilight)18:33, March 30, 2013 (UTC)


Have you seen this?:

I modified it to work as a background, but I'd like your input before I just swap out the BG here.

Siggy4.png @@fandom (profile)•(talk)•(email) 00:16, March 31, 2013 (UTC)


I see! I thought you would like a new splash of templates on the wiki!

ChrysSig(twilight)2 03:54, March 31, 2013 (UTC)


I generally revert V&W's edits as a matter of course, and this idea of hers smacks of infoboxes all over again, but there may be something to it. What do you think? MinorStoop 13:33, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, we'll keep pages as they are, then. And your bluntness, Pam, is much appreciated, at least by me. :) MinorStoop 17:39, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

The new themeEdit

So the new background is blue, to go with BD-2. I like it. I'm just afraid to change the rest of the coloring to blues because I feel the need to have the okay from you. What do you say? TeamTaycob 02:09, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

The link isn't working...? TeamTaycob 15:30, April 3, 2013 (UTC)


I like that you admins are using my idea for a new a background, but what are the colors you guys are planning? And what will become of the templates' color? I can change them if you want. And lastly, who is your favorite Twilight character and your favorite Twilight movies?

ChrysieSig(twilight)21:50, April 3, 2013 (UTC)


I am an admin on The Host Wiki and I would like to ask permission off you to put it on their and about the tabbers I was thinking about having them on here, I am sorry about that.

So thanks again,


Video PagesEdit

I would like to suggest that all video pages combined into on, but in a tabber, it would be much more easier then having to go from page to page.


I have edited one of the pages and it is Twilight Videos I hope it looks functional.
Say, Pam, tabbers may be appropriate also for galleries, something like this. How about them? MinorStoop 05:22, April 11, 2013 (UTC)
Well, I'll get down to work, then. MinorStoop 11:53, April 11, 2013 (UTC)

Allowable user name? Edit

Is an user name like this allowable? Thanks! MinorStoop 06:14, April 13, 2013 (UTC)

Same as you - grey area-ish. I'd imagine it all depends on her (looks like...) edits/comments. MinorStoop 15:37, April 13, 2013 (UTC)

Shelly and Steve Combined pageEdit

So I made a blog suggesting that we combine both Shelly and Steve pages together so that we can have a page like this ( Please can you consider this and it might be a better solution, becuase it seems silly just to have one page for like one paragraph long bit of information. So can you please think it over.

All you need is a little Twilight

Vampire age. Edit

Say, Pam, this user has perhaps a point. He (or she, depending) has listed vampire ages as they have reached during the Saga (107 or so for Edward), while we have listed them as it was when they were turned (17/18 or so, still for Edward). How about listing them both? MinorStoop 22:48, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

This settles it, then. Thanks. MinorStoop 07:18, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
Well, it struck me that "Perpetual age" sounds ridiculous, so I took the liberty to change it to "Age when turned". It may also prevent people from adding chronological age to infoboxes. MinorStoop 09:35, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Filming locations Edit

Page title is "Filming locations" - don't see the need to restate the same thing in the first sentence. MinorStoop 03:59, May 2, 2013 (UTC)

OK, so it is. Restated the sentence so it is consistent with minor actors and crew members. MinorStoop 12:19, May 2, 2013 (UTC)


Well, every other mentioned character has either an "Appearances" section or a "Notes" section redirecting to the Guide. Didyme is the odd element out, without such a section. The search option on Amazon (UK) failed to yield the name in the four books, the only place Didyme's cited in is the guide. Unless someone can come up with something better, I guess it'll have to do.

BTW, I'd rename the "Appearances" section of the "Mentioned characters" category members to something such as "Mentioned in". Your opinion? MinorStoop 22:05, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

Done, thanks. MinorStoop 06:14, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Character infoboxesEdit

VampireAndWerewolfsareAwesomeAsHell23 may have another point. The "Expand" feature she used in her sandbox is not necessarily a bad idea, in a few cases, I think. Do we approve it or downcheck it? Thanks! MinorStoop 11:24, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. MinorStoop 06:56, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Breaking Dawn PlotEdit

I have been doing something editing on my sandbox and I would like to shared something I made and it should work out for the better I think, please click here to do so and you might be surprised on what I made. If it wasn't made for the page then I will put in any action in it. So yeah this is is for you and the other admins to talk over.

All you need is a little Twilight
I thought that that was downchecked a while ago. MinorStoop 10:24, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
I will leave it as that, thanks for the confirmation of it will not work for the wiki, I will not do any more actions towards it.
All you need is a little Twilight

Facebook GroupEdit

So on face book there is a group for this wiki, and I have made template for it, what do you think about it?

All you need is a little Twilight
I was thinking more of the Main Page it might be convenient for those who can't find it on the page or possibly Wiki Nav.
All you need is a little Twilight

Adminship request pageEdit

At this point, this wiki can be easily managed by two people (Jay and me). Since we do not need any more admins, and VampiresAndWerewolfsareAwesomeAsHell23 has applied _again_ for the position, I thought it was worth it to fully protect the Twilight Saga Wiki:Requests for adminship page. I'd even be going as far as deleting the page, but I thought that perhaps you may object to that. MinorStoop 10:13, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, you're right - it's rollback; I've therefore struck down my comment on the adminship requests. I'm heavily prejudiced against V&W, so my opinion is obvious. I'm not going to stand in the way of a trial period, but I'm practically rollbacking everything she does. The tabbers in the media pages and the hide/expand feature for infoboxes weren't too bad as ideas though... MinorStoop 12:09, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

BD Part 1,2 SynopsisEdit

I have made a template of how to have both plots in Breaking Dawn - Part 1 and Breaking Dawn - Part 2 pages, so if you want to have a look at it (BD Parts 1 and 2) If you don't like it then I will accept it, and is it all right if you can have both MinorStoop and Jay to look at it for a further talk about. So yeah all in all I will accept what is given to me.

All you need is a little Twilight

Images of Charlie Swan categoryEdit

Hi. I was wondering if we could delete the "Images of Charlies Swan" category. It would make more sense if Charlie appeared in a relationship gallery, such as "Gallery:Charlie Swan and Sue Clearwater", but he doesn't, so I thought that there's no point of it existing. Trainer-TT 10:38, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

Ah, okay. Thanks. Trainer-TT 11:49, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

Tabbers, again. Edit

Another idea of VampiresAndWerewolfs that might (or might not) have merits. The example she offers is for Breaking Dawn movies, which she has merged in one page, each movie on a separate tab. As prejudiced as I am with her output, she may have stumbled to something we may apply also to wolf packs and vampire covens, I believe.

I'd like to have your input on this, if you please. MinorStoop 09:13, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

Judging by the comments, it looks like users like the idea - we may have to go ahead with it. MinorStoop 19:29, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

New Twilight VideosEdit

Hey, TagAlongPam! I just wanted to let you know that Wikia Video has recently received some fresh videos related to Twilight! Many of the videos embedded on wikis come from sites like YouTube and often become unavailable when they are removed or taken down for copyright violations there. To help provide a reliable and legal option, Wikia has licensed thousands of videos for use on your wikis from several content partners. As you probably already know, they are viewable worldwide and Wikia has the full license for these videos, which means your wiki can use them anywhere you like!

Through a quick search, I found this set of videos for the Twilight Saga Wiki and there might be some new ones that aren't in the Related Videos Module yet. Please let me know if you need any help adding them or have feedback on the videos!

Grace@fandom 18:42, July 16, 2013 (UTC)

Just checking...Edit

Just checking in to make sure you saw this. ^^^ :)

Siggy4.png @@fandom (profile)•(talk)•(email) 23:14, August 6, 2013 (UTC)


Hey, Pam, went ahead and added a bunch to Special: Videos, this doesn't place them on any pages, just makes them more accessible to users here. Plenty more where that came from! :)

Siggy4.png @@fandom (profile)•(talk)•(email) 21:28, September 13, 2013 (UTC)

Character Information BoxEdit

What do you think?

All you need is a little Twilight
So does that mean that you like it? It is really good, you should have it for those who have got a long family list. Like Bella Swan or Jacob Black, and others out there, but I would not not use this for those who have got more three and less then ten.
All you need is a little Twilight

Thanks 22px-SMirC-smile.svg.png

All you need is a little Twilight


I guess that this can be left to a staff member to decide, if/when a likely candidate will appear. There's not that much left to do, and my main motivation to keep editing was to reach the 12000 11000 edits badge - not good enough a reason to get promoted. But, thanks for the thought, anyway. MinorStoop 01:00, August 30, 2013 (UTC)


Hey there, just curious about the IRC situation here... Seems like the Wikia chat function would be a lot simpler / easier to use? Just curious, the link seems to be at least partially broken. Also, has there been a discussion here about switching from talk pages to Message Wall?

Siggy4.png @@fandom (profile)•(talk)•(email) 17:57, October 23, 2013 (UTC)
Alright, I'll ask Jay, it's just that you're the most recently active b-crat here.
Siggy4.png @@fandom (profile)•(talk)•(email) 22:43, October 23, 2013 (UTC)


I stupidly got into a situation where I need bureaucrat rights for a short while. I would appreciate if you coild grant them whenever you got a bit of time, thanks. MinorStoop 09:24, December 11, 2013 (UTC)

Nevermind - the situation is temporarily solved. MinorStoop 10:05, December 11, 2013 (UTC)

Our WikisEdit

I was wondering if you wanted to be affiliated with each other? I'm the Reign wiki

Delete Pictures Edit

Hey TagAlongPam,

I uploaded some pics, without knowing the copyright. I would like if those pictures could get deleted.

I already asked: [MinorStoop(Talkpage)] and [Charmed-Jay(Comment)]

I highlighted them mostly with {{Delete}}.

I hope hearing from you.  — Johannes Kalliauer (talk) Pic 13:20, October 17, 2014 (UTC)

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